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Aert
Joined: 03 Jul 2008 Posts: 354
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Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 9:23 am Post subject: Alien language - dialogue/sugestions? |
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Hey,
I'm looking into doing a serious project on alien language/linguistics, and I'm wondering if anyone has some suggestions, considerations, references, stuff to look into, etc.
Here's the basic outline so far:
Introduction
Language as a tool (uses of language, etc)
Hypothesizing a truly alien language
(previous conlangs/etc of 'alien langs')
Environmental constraints on alien physiology
Neuromorphology and constraints
Communication systems
True linguistic universals
On designing an artificial language for xenocommunication
[maybe: culture (given that communication is a sociocultural act)]
Conclusions
Thanks in advance! |
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Kiri
Joined: 13 Jun 2009 Posts: 471 Location: Latvia/Italy
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Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 1:42 pm Post subject: |
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Do you plan writing some kind of a school-book-type work? Or did I misunderstand something? |
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Aert
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Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 10:49 pm Post subject: |
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No, an essay. I don't think the topic could be addressed anywhere near properly with anything less. |
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Kiri
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Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 2:20 pm Post subject: |
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Then I'd say you pretty much got it covered, unless, of course, you want to go in GREAT depths with this.
Oh, I'm not sure, but I don't see you mentioning language peculiarities that are influenced by culture (or the other way around), like, for example, the great system of honorifics in Japanese and stuff like that I think that this is a big thing in xenocommunication (between two human nations already, not even speaking about aliens) |
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Aert
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Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 11:38 pm Post subject: |
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I Do want to go to great depth with this, which is why I'm looking for suggestions from anyone - I can only think of what I can think of and such.
I did mention culture slightly, but culture would be a lot harder to narrow down in an alien species; just look at the diversity of culture on Earth, whereas the diversity of language still results in the same goals. |
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Aert
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Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 9:12 am Post subject: |
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Any interest? |
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Kiri
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Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 6:41 pm Post subject: |
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I would like to see the end product, but as to suggestions, I have none left, sorry. |
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Aert
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Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 8:36 pm Post subject: |
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alright, I'll post a link to the end result in a couple months
I have no illusions as to how long this is going to take, especially treating this like a true academic paper - I'll need real academic articles/papers/sources etc, and so read through a couple hundred pages in the preparation...
Oh, well, it should be fun |
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eldin raigmore Admin
Joined: 03 May 2007 Posts: 1621 Location: SouthEast Michigan
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Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 11:00 pm Post subject: |
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Translate:
"That is my companion. It is not intended as a tip."
(from: "Useful phrases for the tourist", author unknown)
In fact, I think I'll put that up as a Translation-and-Transcription Challenge. _________________ "We're the healthiest horse in the glue factory" - Erskine Bowles, Co-Chairman of the deficit reduction commission |
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eldin raigmore Admin
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Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2010 7:59 pm Post subject: How's it coming along? |
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How's it coming along? _________________ "We're the healthiest horse in the glue factory" - Erskine Bowles, Co-Chairman of the deficit reduction commission |
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Aert
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Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2010 12:29 am Post subject: |
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Not bad, I've taken a bit of a hiatus due to Christmas and etc, but I've been reading a bit of a book I got on animal communication that's quite good.
I'll post some more stuff on here once I've done some more work. |
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