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Trouble finding IPA or X-SAMPA for these Zs

 
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Vrelina



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 10:03 pm    Post subject: Trouble finding IPA or X-SAMPA for these Zs Reply with quote

ź and ż
What are their sounds respectively, or what languages are they used in? I'm planning to use them for a conlang.
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killerken



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Location: Florida

PostPosted: Sat Oct 04, 2008 12:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Both are used in Polish.
ź = ʑ
ż = ʐ


As far as I am aware, they sound similar: like "zh". I traveled north last summer with some Polish friends. They met up with another Polish family, so I heard quite a bit of it.
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Vrelina



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 04, 2008 1:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Where would you find these 'Cs'?
ċ
ĉ
ć
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 04, 2008 2:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ċ is used in Maltese and Old English to represent [tʃ], it also used to be used in Irish Gaelic.

ć is [ʨ], it's used on polish and a bunch of other Slavic languages.

ĉ is also [tʃ] or [tʂ], and is used mostly in Esperanto. Some Slavic languages use it too, I think.

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