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PostPosted: Sat Jul 14, 2012 8:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If your interested, I'd like to point to the Question Words section in the word/grammar listing, you may notice something interesting. Do you see it?
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 9:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm interested, but I can't find the link you're talking about.
You mean this, right?
And these words?
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hân - what
hav - who
hiikâs - when
hep - how long
haikâs - how
hwez - how many
heenâs - why

They all start with /h/; and three of them (for when, how, and why) all have the form
h-double vowel-consonant-âs.
The others are all h-(optional semivowel)-vowel-consonant.
I'm glad you have question words for "how long" and "how many", which English doesn't have.

What is it I'm supposed to notice?
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 10:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That is a good thing to notice (it would alude well to a mood prefix I'll soon be listing). But it wasn't actually what I believe to be the more interesting detail. There is a missing question word (two if you think about older English): where (and whither). And also, as per something I hadn't thought about originally, when is going to be removed as well. And just as there is no word for where, there are also no words for there and here.

Where is generally replaced by “ci hânoi” or “ša hânau” depending on whether or not movement is involved. Thus “ci iiťoi”, “ci aaťoi” and “ci uuťoi” take the places of here and there. The prefixes can also be changed to represent concepts like “from here”.

When will function the same but using the time prepositions and now and then have proved useful enough to keep there forms (partly because their function as nouns is useful).

Also I'm actually missing one on that list that's supposed to be there: ”hepâs”. It translates the same as “hep” but is used for adverbial concepts rather than nominal (saying, ”How long is the movie?” rather than, “How long does the movie last?”).


On a similar note, there's also no words for “hot” or “cold”. Instead say “to have much heat” or “to have little heat” (“niikson kepa flamedâ” or “niikson gopa flamed”).


I've also made a change in the pronunciation, wherein the last syllable, excluding verb and case endings, takes primary stress unless there is a long vowel, which will take primary stress instead.

The rules for secondary stress are the same as before.

(“hav” is supposed to be “haď”. I'll fix that)
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 5:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I see!

English question-words that start with "wh" are
what, when, whence, where, whether, which, whither, who, whom, why

"Whether" is binary; either affirmative or negative.

"Which" implies constrained choice, but not necessarily only binary.

"Who" and "whom" differ only by case; nominative or "objective".

"Who" and "what" differ by humanness, or, perhaps, animacy.

"Where", "whither", and "whence" can be thought to differ by case; "where" is locative or adessive, "whither" is allative (aka "where to"), "whence" is ablative (aka "where from").

"Whence", "whither", "whom", and perhaps even "whether", may be old-fashioned.

Do you distinguish between spatial "how long" and temporal "how long"?
How about aspectual(?) "how many" (e.g. "how many times") vs count-noun "how many"?
How about mass-or-measure noun "how much"? Or degree-word adverbial "how much"?


LingoDingo wrote:
"Where" is generally replaced by “ci hânoi” or “ša hânau” depending on whether or not movement is involved. Thus “ci iiťoi”, “ci aaťoi” and “ci uuťoi” take the places of here and there. The prefixes can also be changed to represent concepts like “from here”.

So one will be "where", and the other will be both "whence" and "whither" depending on a prefix?


LingoDingo wrote:
"When" will function the same but using the time prepositions; and "now" and "then" have proved useful enough to keep there forms (partly because their function as nouns is useful).

I see. Yes, "now" and "then" are nouns; but even as nouns they can be replaced by "this time" and "that time".


LingoDingo wrote:
...(various other cool things)...

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 11:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

eldin raigmore wrote:
Do you distinguish between spatial "how long" and temporal "how long"?
How about aspectual(?) "how many" (e.g. "how many times") vs count-noun "how many"?
How about mass-or-measure noun "how much"? Or degree-word adverbial "how much"?


Spatial “how long” will be derived from the word for “length“ with the intial consonant replaced by /h/.
Aspectual “how many”: “hwezâs”, Count-noun “how many”: “hwez”
Mass-or-measure “how much“ is hwezal and the degree adverb is “hapâs”.

eldin raigmore wrote:
So one will be "where", and the other will be both "whence" and "whither" depending on a prefix?

Yes.
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