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Aeetlrcreejl

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Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2011 5:17 am Post subject: |
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Drehu. Paici. _________________ Iwocwá ĵọṭãsák.
/iwotSwa_H d`Z`Ot`~asa_Hk/
[iocwa_H d`Z`Ot`_h~a_Hk] |
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eldin raigmore Admin

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Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2011 5:16 pm Post subject: |
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Aeetlrcreejl wrote: | Drehu. Paici. |
I agree!
If that's right, Aeetlrcreejl should go next. Right? _________________ "We're the healthiest horse in the glue factory" - Erskine Bowles, Co-Chairman of the deficit reduction commission |
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Aeetlrcreejl

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Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2011 11:00 pm Post subject: |
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OK.
Ngô:do kûk l'àrtâ:lagî:ka,
mō:ro el:ma kâ igbâ:dàla
mō:ro el:mo lê aden:yarà
pō:-tōt läh.
You can do it. _________________ Iwocwá ĵọṭãsák.
/iwotSwa_H d`Z`Ot`~asa_Hk/
[iocwa_H d`Z`Ot`_h~a_Hk] |
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Kiri

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Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 10:29 am Post subject: |
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Just confirming that it was, indeed, Paici
The new one...
I wonder what the colon-thing stands for... does it mean some kind of abreviaton?
Random questions:
Is it spoken in Africa?
Is it spoken in North or South America?
Is it a living language? |
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Aeetlrcreejl

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Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 3:04 pm Post subject: |
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Kiri wrote: | Is it spoken in Africa?
Is it spoken in North or South America?
Is it a living language? |
No, no, no (but it was spoken 30 years ago). _________________ Iwocwá ĵọṭãsák.
/iwotSwa_H d`Z`Ot`~asa_Hk/
[iocwa_H d`Z`Ot`_h~a_Hk] |
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eldin raigmore Admin

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Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 5:54 pm Post subject: |
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Kiri wrote: |
The new one...
I wonder what the colon-thing stands for... does it mean some kind of abreviaton?
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Probably long vowels instead of short, or geminated consonants instead of ungeminated. That's what it means in both IPA and Z-SAMPA.
I wonder what the hyphen in pō:-tōt means.
I wonder what the macrons over the ōs in mō:ro and pō:-tōt mean.
I wonder what the grave accents over the às in l'àrtâ:lagî:ka, igbâ:dàla, and aden:yarà mean; do they mean "low tones" as in http://www.langsci.ucl.ac.uk/ipa/tones.html?
There's a circumflexed ô in Ngô:do, a circumflexed û in kûk, a circumflexed î in l'àrtâ:lagî:ka, and there are circmflexed âs in l'àrtâ:lagî:ka, kâ, and igbâ:dàla. Do the circumflexes mean a falling tone (from high to low), as in http://www.langsci.ucl.ac.uk/ipa/tones.html? Or do they mean what they mean in http://kneequickie.com/kq/Z-SAMPA#8-bit_vowel_transcription?
Does the diaresis or umlaut over the ä in läh mean centralized, as in http://www.langsci.ucl.ac.uk/ipa/diacritics.html? Or does it mean an open lax (or near-open) front unrounded vowel (aka [ { ]) as in http://kneequickie.com/kq/Z-SAMPA#8-bit_vowel_transcription?
What does the apostrophe mean in l'àrtâ:lagî:ka? Does it mean [url=l'àrtâ:lagî:ka]palatalized[/url]?
Is the N in Ngô:do just an uppercase letter to begin a sentence, or is it a different sound from the n in aden:yarà?
Is the y in aden:yarà a close front rounded vowel [ y ] or a palatal approximant [ j ]?
Is the n: in aden:yarà meant to represent a geminated or long alveolar nasal consonant, [ n: ]?
What consonant is represented by the r in l'àrtâ:lagî:ka and mō:ro and aden:yarà ?
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Questions relating to the type of this language:
Is it tonal? That is, does it have lexical tone?
Does it have low tones?
Does it have falling tones?
Does it have phonemic length in vowels?
Ignoring length and tone, does it have exactly five vowels?
Or exactly six vowels?
Or more than six?
Is it polysynthetic?
Is it agglutinative?
Is it fusional?
Is it synthetic without being especially polysynthetic nor agglutinative nor fusional?
Does it have nasals, and voiced stops, and voiceless stops, at each of the bilabial, alveolar, and velar points-of-articulation? Do those, along with /l/ and /r/ and /h/ and possibly /y/, form its entire consonant inventory?
Is it an African language?
Is it an Oceanic language?
Would any of us recognize the poem or prayer being quoted?
Is it spoken in and/or near Papua and/or New Guinea?
Is it spoken in and/or near India? _________________ "We're the healthiest horse in the glue factory" - Erskine Bowles, Co-Chairman of the deficit reduction commission
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Hemicomputer
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Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 6:35 pm Post subject: |
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Does it have a native orthography other than Latin alphabet?
Is it at all related to Burmese or other languages spoken in/near Burma? _________________ Bakram uso, mi abila, / del us bakrat, dahud bakrita! |
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Aeetlrcreejl

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Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 8:04 pm Post subject: |
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It's spoken around India.
I don't know enough about the language to answer any of the other questions. I've searched a bunch, too. _________________ Iwocwá ĵọṭãsák.
/iwotSwa_H d`Z`Ot`~asa_Hk/
[iocwa_H d`Z`Ot`_h~a_Hk] |
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eldin raigmore Admin

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Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 8:46 pm Post subject: |
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Aeetlrcreejl wrote: | It's spoken around India.
I don't know enough about the language to answer any of the other questions. I've searched a bunch, too. |
Then as of now I don't see how I can make a better guess without cheating.
OTOH it's early days yet. Maybe after someone else makes some guesses I'll have a better handle on it. _________________ "We're the healthiest horse in the glue factory" - Erskine Bowles, Co-Chairman of the deficit reduction commission |
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Kiri

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Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 9:49 pm Post subject: |
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I think Hemi's question about native orthography is the most important at this point. |
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Aeetlrcreejl

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Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 3:11 am Post subject: |
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All I've seen is the Latin alphabet.
I will say it's not Dravidian or Indo-European. So there. It should be a lot easier now. _________________ Iwocwá ĵọṭãsák.
/iwotSwa_H d`Z`Ot`~asa_Hk/
[iocwa_H d`Z`Ot`_h~a_Hk] |
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Tolkien_Freak

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Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 3:56 am Post subject: |
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So you don't know if it's tonal or not? That sounds important.
Is it an isolate? |
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Kiri

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Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 10:47 am Post subject: |
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While doing my research I accidentaly found the given passage, therefore I know what language it is. I won't name it, though, to give the rest of you a chance
From what I see, I think it is safe to say that it is not an isolate  |
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eldin raigmore Admin

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Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 8:18 pm Post subject: |
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Is it spoken somewhere between 10 and 20 degrees North latitude and between 90 and 100 degrees East longitude?
(If not, is it spoken between 5 and 10 degrees North latitude and between 90 and 100 degrees East longitude?)
Is it spoken between 10 and 15 degrees North latitude and between 90 and 95 degrees East longitude?
Close to Myanmar?
Close to Indonesia?
Close to Thailand?
Close to Malaysia?
Close to Bangladesh?
Is it closer to Myanmar than any of the others?
Is it closer to Indonesia than any of the others?
How about Sri Lanka?
Kiri wrote: | From what I see, I think it is safe to say that it is not an isolate  |
Is it a Papuan language, or related to them?
Is it a Timorese language, or related to them?
Does it (like some Oceanic languages) have inalienable possession distinct from alienable possession?
Does it (like some Algonquian languages) have obligatorily-possessed nouns distinct from optionally-possessible nouns?
Does it also have non-possessible nouns distinct from optionally-possessible nouns?
Is it agglutinative?
Does it have lots of noun-classes? Are these (like genders) concordial noun-classes, requiring other words to agree with the class of the noun? _________________ "We're the healthiest horse in the glue factory" - Erskine Bowles, Co-Chairman of the deficit reduction commission
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Aeetlrcreejl

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Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 11:46 am Post subject: |
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eldin raigmore wrote: | Is it spoken between 10 and 15 degrees North latitude and between 90 and 95 degrees East longitude?
Close to Myanmar?
Close to Thailand?
Close to Bangladesh?
Is it closer to Myanmar than any of the others?
Does it (like some Oceanic languages) have inalienable possession distinct from alienable possession?
Does it (like some Algonquian languages) have obligatorily-possessed nouns distinct from optionally-possessible nouns?
Is it agglutinative?
Does it have lots of noun-classes? Are these (like genders) concordial noun-classes, requiring other words to agree with the class of the noun? |
Yes to these, no to the others. _________________ Iwocwá ĵọṭãsák.
/iwotSwa_H d`Z`Ot`~asa_Hk/
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Kiri

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Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2011 11:02 am Post subject: |
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I don't remember what it was anymore
Anyways, don't you guys think we should revive this thread? |
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eldin raigmore Admin

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Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2011 6:41 pm Post subject: Re: quiz: what language is this? |
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langover94 wrote: | this may be easy for some of you, but still, i wanna see if you guys know it
ரொட்டி ஒரு வகை உணவுப் பொருளாகும். அது மாவு (பொதுவாக கோதுமை மாவு), தண்ணீர் மற்றும் உப்புக் கலவையை யீஸ்ட் உதவியுடன் நுண்ணுயிர் பகுப்பு (ferment) செய்வதன் மூலம் உருவாக்கப்படுகிறது. மேலை நாடுகளில் ரொட்டி ஒரு முக்கிய உணவுப் பொருளாகும். பீட்சாவின் அடிப்புறமும், சான்ட்விச்சின் வெளிப்புறமும் ரொட்டியினால் ஆனவை.
good luck! |
Looks like Tamil to me.
I recognize தண்ணீர் as (some form of) "water", and பீட்சாவின், சான்ட்விச்சின், and ரொட்டியினால் sound like they might be cognate to "pizza", "sandwich", and "rotellini".
Of course I could be wrong; I only ever learned some words of Tamil, I don't think I ever learned a whole sentence. And that was over half a century ago.
EDIT: Ah, heck, got my "last shall be first and first shall be last" mojo working. That was the first post I was replying to, not the last. I'll go back and try again.
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Kiri wrote: | I don't remember what it was anymore
Anyways, don't you guys think we should revive this thread? |
Since you yourself forgot, I cheated.
I'm pretty sure it's Aka-Bea, a language of the Great Andaman archipelago.
The following poem in Aka-Bea was written by a chief, Jambu, after he was freed from a six-month jail term for manslaughter.
ngô:do kûk l'àrtâ:lagî:ka, mō:ro el:ma kâ igbâ:dàla mō:ro el:mo lê aden:yarà pō:-tōt läh. Chorus: aden:yarà pō:-tōt läh.
Literally:
thou heart-sad art, sky-surface to there looking while, sky-surface of ripple to looking while, bamboo spear on lean-dost.
Translation:
Thou art sad at heart, gazing there at the sky's surface, gazing at the ripple on the sky's surface, leaning on the bamboo spear.
(translation: E. H. Man, 1902.) _________________ "We're the healthiest horse in the glue factory" - Erskine Bowles, Co-Chairman of the deficit reduction commission |
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Kiri

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Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2011 12:32 am Post subject: |
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Well then, Eldin先輩, give us something new to muse over, SVP
P.S. I think this is the one site where my code-switching brain could actually work in full mode, but please do tell me when it gets too overwhelming  |
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Kiri

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Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 9:00 pm Post subject: |
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There's nothing better than necromancing! (Or was it 'nothing worse'? I forget.)
Anyway, just to revive the thread, I'll give you guys a super easy one.
Nocērt man rokas! Kopš bērnības "Gribu!" un "Dod!"
Šie nesāta pirksti vien prasīt un paturēt prot.
Bet mīla ir plauksta, kuŗā taurenis nosēsties var –
Tik ilgi vien spārnots, kamēr pirksti to neaizskaŗ.
I'll feel satisfied if it takes you more than five questions. I'll be surprised though, if it takes you more than ten. |
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eldin raigmore Admin

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A language of NorthWestern Europe?
Spoken in a formerly Communist-bloc country?
English name starts with an "L"? _________________ "We're the healthiest horse in the glue factory" - Erskine Bowles, Co-Chairman of the deficit reduction commission |
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