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Tolkien_Freak



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 9:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Yeah, in Latvian we say "vārti", which is pretty much the same term we use for any gate (just a fun fact, you can only use this word in the plural form, never in the singular (there are a couple of words like that, e.g. "bikses" (trousers), "durvis" (door) although you can see a singular-ish term "aizdurve" (the place behind the door), "ļaudis" (a special word for people), "brilles" (eye-glasses), "šķēres" (scissors) and so on. Smile

So you use 'gates' and 'doors' even if there's only one physical object?
(Then again, we use 'pants' and there's only one physical object.)

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I was thinking "Spanish gates" don't sound right, in the terms of football Very Happy

Yeah, that was what I noticed immediately ^_^
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 11:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, exactly, there is only one physical "door", but we use it in the plural, because.. I don't know why, there just is no other way Very Happy

Well, the thing with pants and glasses is that one can, in fact, imagine them as a combination of two objects, thus having the use of plural make more sense, in a way Very Happy
I can't really explain the gate and door thing, but it seems logical, because I'm used to it. The same way as I'm used to having every single noun have an asigned gender that has nothing to do with the thing it represents. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 11:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kiri wrote:
Well, the thing with pants and glasses is that one can, in fact, imagine them as a combination of two objects, thus having the use of plural make more sense, in a way Very Happy

True. I wonder if English does anything where it's very obviously one thing, but it uses a plural. Anybody think of one?

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I can't really explain the gate and door thing, but it seems logical, because I'm used to it. The same way as I'm used to having every single noun have an asigned gender that has nothing to do with the thing it represents. Very Happy

Yup ^_^
(Genders are weird.)
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 11:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tolkien_Freak wrote:
Kiri wrote:
Well, the thing with pants and glasses is that one can, in fact, imagine them as a combination of two objects, thus having the use of plural make more sense, in a way Very Happy

True. I wonder if English does anything where it's very obviously one thing, but it uses a plural. Anybody think of one?


I wonder if "eye-glasses" count Wink
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 2:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glasses do have two distinct parts, though...
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 9:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, you're right.
Honestly, I don't think English does that. I mean, it's weird in all sorts of ways, but this is the one quirk it has left for other languages Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 5:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is weird for me to say but I guess you're changing the main topic... Wouldn't you really like to split this topic into 2 separate threads?
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 10:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We could do that, but basically we already finished (I think) the offtopic, so we can just get back to football (soccer).

Who do you think/want to win the Cup?
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 10:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was hoping for Japan, but that didn't happen (and I wasn't expecting it really); now I'm more interested to see who wins rather than rooting for any particular team.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 04, 2010 10:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

(Anorher Latvian plural-only - meli (lies) )

Which countries are actually left?
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 05, 2010 12:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Germany (future world champion?), Spain, Holland / Netherlands, Uruguay.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 05, 2010 10:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brazil lost to Netherlands? I find it kinda weird, since I had the impression that Brazil is like the God of football Very Happy
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 05, 2010 7:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not if Dunga is the coach... Something similar happened to Argentina and Maradona...
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 9:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, Netherlands won, Uruguay goes home. Would Spain do the same as Uruguay did today? Who knows, but I guess that's exactly what we'll be witnessing tomorrow night (afternoon for me).
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 8:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I guess Paul, a sea creature that lives in Oberhausen aquarium, knows more about football / soccer than I or many people do...

Spain 1 - Germany 0

Last Matches of FIFA World Cup 2010

Semi Final: Germany vs Uruguay (Saturday)

Final: Netherlands vs Spain (Sunday)
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 8:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I vote for Netherlands, just because.

But actually, I liked the way Spain played against Portugal, so, I don't really care Very Happy


(P.S. TF, "sāpes" - pain-PL)
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 8:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I suppose it doesn't really matter to me who wins now ^_^

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(P.S. TF, "sāpes" - pain-PL)


'Pains' - I like it.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 4:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm kind of annoyed Spain lost, but that goal was excellent. I'm just glad it didn't go to a shoot out. It seems Krake Paul was right again though.

Oh, and to answer an earlier question:

Pants!
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 9:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought you'd say Netherlands... They lost, not Spain.

Man, that was the worst final match in the FIFA world cup history, too many fouls, too many yellow cards but just a single red card... That's unfair, about half the players should have been banned for the rest of their careers. Even the Spanish "scorer" should have seen a red one several minutes before he could score in the second extra half time.

The match for the third place was more like a true final match. Sadly the Uruguayans couldn't score at the end of the game during that free kick.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 6:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I feel a little bad for Netherlands - 3 times in the final and always lost.
On the other hand, first win for Spain, that's always nice Smile
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