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kyonides · Joined: 28 Aug 2008 Posts: 301

It's a very curious thing that I couldn't find a single topic regarding this sport event in several forums I visit often, but I guess it's a normal behavior for forums based in the USA or that mostly include people from USA, I hate to call them Americans because to me Americans are all the people living in the American Continent. (Normally Latin American feel like the US citizens might use that term to distiguish (?) themselves from the people of the rest of the American nations in a "disrespectful" manner. OK, we also call them "Gringos" if we dislike something the so called American did like poisoning the Gulf with oil...) I guess it'd be easier to find topics regarding basketball or baseball than soccer ones, but I haven't ever found any topic about any sport, yet... How weird...
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Tolkien_Freak · Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2010 2:13 am Post subject:

Soccer/football isn't a sport that Americans (i.e. US Americans) pay very much attention to as a whole - they prefer mainly what they call 'football', and to a lesser degree basketball and then baseball. Of course, you might be on the wrong forums - perhaps the demographic of your forum-goers doesn't intersect very well with the demographic of American sports fans.

I find myself completely uninterested with sports unless they're on an international scale - the World Cup and the Olympics are pretty much the only sports events I pay attention to (except the America's Cup, but that's sailing; and I do wish the Olympics had more cognitive things like chess and go).

Aeetlrcreejl · Joined: 08 Jun 2007 Posts: 839 Location: Over yonder

I'm in West Texas right now, so I've got limited Internet access. The others on this trip are very interested in the World Cup, particularly the US's game against the UK.
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Kiri · Joined: 13 Jun 2009 Posts: 471 Location: Latvia/Italy

I have no interest in football (the Europian kind) whatsoever. So yeah... Very Happy

eldin raigmore · Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2010 9:54 pm Post subject:

I've been following the World Cup on the radio. I haven't been listening to broadcasts of games, but rather to summaries afterwards.

Since about half a generation (or, maybe, at most an entire generation) after I was born, soccer ("football" to the non-Rugby-playing world -- that is, the non-English-speaking world) has gained popularity in the U.S.A. Consider the women's Olympic soccer teams of 1996, 2000, 2004, 2008. But really there have been many school teams at every level of school -- universities, four-year colleges, junior colleges, high schoools, junior high schools, middle schools, and even elementary schools. There are also several amateur leagues, some for adults. IME and IMO and ANAICT it's just professional soccer that has a hard time in the USA compared to "American (i.e. USAnian) Rugby". But David Beckham seems to be making headway even on that.

For some reason only English-speaking countries have versions of Rugby, in which players other than goal-tenders may pick up and carry the ball (in Soccer even goal-tenders can't carry it). American (USAnian) Rugby is distinguished from some other Rugbys by allowing a single forward pass per play; it has to be from behind the line of scrimmage, and only certain players can pass and only certain players can receive.

Canadian Rugby is extremely similar to American (USAnian) Rugby; but not the same. For one thing each side has 12 men on field instead of 11; for another a side can have more than one man in motion after the set but before the ball is hiked (or otherwise rendered a "live ball").

Australian Rugby looks really weird to followers of USAnian and Canadian Rugby; and probably also to the U.K.'s and South Africa's and others' followers of Rugby League and Rugby Union. But it has several points in common; among them, the "fair catch" or "mark". Noting the similarity is like figuring out that both Portuguese and Romanian are Romance languages.

So here's a pair of questions;

(1) Why do people in non-English-speaking countries like London Football Society ("Soc") Football?
(2) Why don't people in non-English-speaking countries like Rugby Football?
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kyonides · Joined: 28 Aug 2008 Posts: 301

Well, I already knew I wouldn't find plenty of soccer, basketball, baseball, hockey, volleyball fans in English speaking fora, maybe this happens because they dwell more in twitter or irc channels or a mix of both things...

1. "American" football wasn't even known here until the second half of the last century and England had a lot of undergoing projects here in Latin America or even in India and other Asian or African countries.

2. There are a few thousands of Latin Americans who like to watch or play a non-football game, except for Cuba and Nicaragua, where the rule is to be a baseball fan. Some have only one reason to follow a non-football team, their national or local teams suck / didn't qualify or didn't go through the finals...
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Tolkien_Freak · Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 3:51 am Post subject:

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Hemicomputer · Joined: 04 Feb 2008 Posts: 610 Location: Calgary, Alberta

FIFA has definitely been all over the news here in Canada, even though we don't have a team (I think many Canadians are supporting Côte D'Ivoire for some bizarre reason...). Canada apparently has more overall involvement in soccer than in hockey, counting small leagues and school teams etc., which makes it even stranger that we aren't competing in the World Cup.

I myself am by no means a sports fan. The only sports I ever watch are figure skating in the Winter Olympics (more like an art form than a sport, really) and occasionally curling.
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kyonides · Joined: 28 Aug 2008 Posts: 301

Figure skating in the Winter Olympics? Mmm, that sounds kinda suspicious to me... he he he
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kyonides · Joined: 28 Aug 2008 Posts: 301

I think England (also) lost yesterday in South Africa because the English team didn't want to partake in the next match against Argentina due to some political conflicts related to the dispute of Falk Islands or Islas Malvinas.
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Tolkien_Freak · Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 1:20 am Post subject:

I've seen a lot of people complaining about how 'the whole game would have been different' if the refs had called what apparently was supposed to have been a goal a goal. IDK how much it would have done (by itself it would have made a 4-1 game a 4-2 game), but maybe it might have affected morale and whatnot.
I wouldn't think the Falklands had any bearing on that match.

I'm looking forward to Japan v. Paraguay on Tuesday. I probably won't be able to watch it (it's at 5 AM I think, I won't be awake for another five hours probably), but I'm interested in the result.

What teams are yall interested in?

kyonides · Joined: 28 Aug 2008 Posts: 301

Mmm, let's see... Argentina, Germany, Japan, Paraguay, Brazil, Netherlands... Yeah, just too many hehehe...
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Aeetlrcreejl · Joined: 08 Jun 2007 Posts: 839 Location: Over yonder

Japan lost. Portugal lost. How sad.
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Tolkien_Freak · Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 4:37 pm Post subject:

Yup. 悲しいことだ。

Kiri · Joined: 13 Jun 2009 Posts: 471 Location: Latvia/Italy

Portugal vs. Spain was the only game I saw, and only because it was an opportunity to share some words with my brother...
Anyway, Spain played a lot better than Portugal, and even I saw that Smile

Spain practically controlled the game all the way through. I think that during the second period Portugal didn't even once hit towards the Spannish gates (is that the right term?)

Tolkien_Freak · Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 9:09 pm Post subject:

Kiri · Joined: 13 Jun 2009 Posts: 471 Location: Latvia/Italy

Yeah, in Latvian we say "vārti", which is pretty much the same term we use for any gate (just a fun fact, you can only use this word in the plural form, never in the singular (there are a couple of words like that, e.g. "bikses" (trousers), "durvis" (door) although you can see a singular-ish term "aizdurve" (the place behind the door), "ļaudis" (a special word for people), "brilles" (eye-glasses), "šķēres" (scissors) and so on. Smile

I was thinking "Spanish gates" don't sound right, in the terms of football Very Happy