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kyonides
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 Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 4:08 am Post subject: Ēşvokã |
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Well, my 3rd attempt to create a conlang would be named Ēşvokã /eCvokas/. I don't have any idea about who are the conpeople that would speak this conlang.
Vowels
<a ā ã> <e ē ẽ> <i ī ĩ> <o ō õ>
XSAMPA - /a A: (as A:s)/ /e E: (es E:s)/ /i I: (is :s)/ /o O: (os O:s)/
IPA - /a ɑ: (as ɑ:s)/ /e E: (es ɛ:s)/ /i ɪ: (is ɪ:s)/ /o ɔ: (os ɔ:s)/
Consonants
/p t d k g m n f v T C x j L r w Y/
<p t d k g m n f v th ş h j l r w y>
Stops /p t d k g/ <p t d k g>
Fricatives /f v C h/ <f v ş h>
Approximants /j l r w/ <j l r w>
Nasals /m n/ <m n>
[strike]Affricates[/strike]
Grammar
My goal is to use no verb to describe actions but I guess I'd end up including just infinitive forms, though.
Notes
/s/ has no specific letter to represent it, instead conpeople use the tilde ~ to represent it on vowels and some consonants like t ~t (I didn't find any symbol for it so I had no choice than to enter them separately).
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Tolkien_Freak
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| Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 11:35 am Post subject: Re: Ēşvokã |
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| kyonides wrote: | | I don't have any idea about who are the conpeople that would speak this conlang. |
Nothin wrong with conlanging for the sake of conlanging ^_^
| Quote: | | My goal is to use no verb to describe actions but I guess I'd end up including just infinitive forms, though. |
A verb-less language is sort-of half-possible - you could say that a sentence would be 'his going' (='he goes'), or you could just analyse that by saying that all verbs are identical to their nominalisations and take genitive subjects.
Beyond that there might be ways to make it more obvious that it's one of those options than the other, but yeah.
| Quote: | | /s/ has no specific letter to represent it, instead conpeople use the tilde ~ to represent it on vowels and some consonants like t ~t (I didn't find any symbol for it so I had no choice than to enter them separately). |
Even if their conscript doesn't have <s> (which honestly seems a little bit odd, but Ancient Greek uses diacritics for initial /h/ and /?/ so IDK), you probably ought to write it normally in the romanisation. |
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Aeetlrcreejl
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| Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 11:46 am Post subject: Re: Ēşvokã |
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| kyonides wrote: |
Consonants
/p t d k g m n f v T S x j h L r w M\ tS Y/
<p> |
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kyonides
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| Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 5:38 am Post subject: |
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I know, I always forge to disable HTML...
| Quote: | | Even if their conscript doesn't have <s> (which honestly seems a little bit odd, but Ancient Greek uses diacritics for initial /h/ and /?/ so IDK), you probably ought to write it normally in the romanisation. |
Maybe you're right, but if I completely romanize it, people might imagine they do have a special character for letter s when that's not the case. This conpeople might not believe s is a separate phoneme but just another allophone(?) for each of the 4 vowels...
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| Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 11:37 am Post subject: |
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| kyonides wrote: | | Maybe you're right, but if I completely romanize it, people might imagine they do have a special character for letter s when that's not the case. This conpeople might not believe s is a separate phoneme but just another allophone(?) for each of the 4 vowels... |
I think romanisations should always attempt to accurately denote pronunciation rather than spelling (Tibetan's so bad it has two, one for transliteration and one for showing actual pronunciation).
It does seem odd that they wouldn't consider it an actual separate sound. Are there any historical reasons for this (some sort of epenthesis or something?)? |
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