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Vreleksá The Alurhsa Word for Constructed: Creativity in both scripts and languages
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Aert
Joined: 03 Jul 2008 Posts: 354
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Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 6:56 pm Post subject: Dissertations |
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Hey,
Do you sort out your notes into dissertations on your conlangs, or know of other peoples dissertations?
I would really like to read some of these when I have time, they could help with mine, or just with how other languages could/do work.
My document on Aert is over 3000 words right now, but it's getting bigger as I discover more things a language has to be able to do
Thanks! |
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Tolkien_Freak

Joined: 26 Jul 2007 Posts: 1231 Location: in front of my computer. always.
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Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 7:01 pm Post subject: |
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So far all I have for Emitare and PKM is a spreadsheet each of all the various grammatical forms. I know that many people do write grammars of their conlangs (and I have heard it said that if your grammar's less than 50 pages, your conlang's nowhere near 'done').
I need to write at least a PKM grammar this summer, 'specially since that's the era I'm going to try to thoroughly complete this summer. |
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eldin raigmore Admin

Joined: 03 May 2007 Posts: 1621 Location: SouthEast Michigan
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Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 9:44 pm Post subject: Re: Dissertations |
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Aert wrote: | Do you ... know of other peoples dissertations? | Chris D. Bates, the maths student from Nottinghamsire, has written more than one very good one that is a pleasure to read as well as thought-provoking and informative.
As a general rule only his most recently completed one and the one he is now working on are available online; he tends to let the older ones lapse unless someone asks.
Look on http://chrisdb.me.uk/; if you look for it you can probably find a link to one or two of them. _________________ "We're the healthiest horse in the glue factory" - Erskine Bowles, Co-Chairman of the deficit reduction commission |
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Aert
Joined: 03 Jul 2008 Posts: 354
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Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 3:30 am Post subject: |
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Thanks for the links, elding raigmore! Those will be really useful for mine, and for other (con)linguistic interests
@Tolkien_Freak: well, I know my conlang is nowhere near done, but 50 pages! Mine's only 17! I haven't gone into incredible depth yet, especially for the phonologies and pronunciation, and I know I'll be adding lots of grammar notes once they come up in translation challenges/etc, but still! (better get busy )
I'm just wondering, how do you write a grammar for an older/archaic version of your conlang (unless you work backwards)? I imagine you changed things around to better suit what you were trying to accomplish for your 'lang, so some grammar changes etc might be unlikely in an evolutionary sense. |
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Tolkien_Freak

Joined: 26 Jul 2007 Posts: 1231 Location: in front of my computer. always.
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Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 4:05 am Post subject: |
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Aert wrote: | @Tolkien_Freak: well, I know my conlang is nowhere near done, but 50 pages! Mine's only 17! I haven't gone into incredible depth yet, especially for the phonologies and pronunciation, and I know I'll be adding lots of grammar notes once they come up in translation challenges/etc, but still! (better get busy ) |
My thoughts exactly. I could probably write a fairly comprehensive grammar of a natlang in under 50 pages.
Quote: | I'm just wondering, how do you write a grammar for an older/archaic version of your conlang (unless you work backwards)? I imagine you changed things around to better suit what you were trying to accomplish for your 'lang, so some grammar changes etc might be unlikely in an evolutionary sense. |
If it's not the evolutionary ancestor, I would suggest just isolating it and acting as if the current version doesn't exist. |
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killerken

Joined: 30 Sep 2008 Posts: 134 Location: Florida
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Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 4:09 am Post subject: |
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When I first started conlanging, I wrote everything down in a spiral notebook. But I found myself crossing things out and changing stuff all the time, so now it's all just in my head. I have vocabulary, tense indicators, and cases written down, but that's it. I do know that it's no where near 50 pages long if I were to write it. Probably more like 10. _________________ Speak: English, Spanish
Invent: Fidhaas
Learn: Polish
Awesome: Yes |
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achemel
Joined: 29 Mar 2009 Posts: 556 Location: up for debate
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Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 10:10 am Post subject: |
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My average grammar is about 2 pages... Though, dictionaries for all of my languages including the ones not posted here are at least 300 words. I sort of work through vocab building and then when I stumble across something that might need a grammatical rule I make one. I often end up putting that rule into the dictionary as "suffix"/"prefix"/"infix" or "part of speech" or something, so all I have written down for any given language really amounts to verb conjugations, word order, and numbers. _________________ I have some small knowledge of:
English, Japanese, Korean, Chinese, Spanish, French
I would like to learn:
Italian, Norwegian, Gaelic
Main conlangs:
ddamachel, tadvaradcel, ra cel, lashel, hemnalg, nomah |
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