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halyihev · Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 1:20 am Post subject: Seasonal Songs

This is a blast from the past. I just found a posting I did to the CONLANG-L list in late November of 1997. It seems appropriate, though, to re-post it here and maybe get some translations going:
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Seasons Greetings, All!

I'm working on being more festive this year, and in the spirit of
(pick your favorite seasonally appropriate holiday) I thought it might
be cool to do some holiday songs in our favorite Conlangs.

So, here's the challenge: Post a translation of a commonly-known
holiday song (note that this is open to non-Christmas/non-Christian songs
as well. I just don't happen to know any, myself, other than perhaps the one
I did), in your favorite Conlang. Identify the song that the music comes from,
and give a translation (of sorts) for the words you came up with for that song.

To get things going, here's the Aluric version of O Tannenbaum:

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Á írshänyá, á írshänyá, sá féhhá lhôñ óls-púnár,
Á írshänyá, á írshänyá, sá féhhá lhôñ óls-púnár,
Dyárán hìnáyëv gó hìlô,
ddá tsú gó zhel ddá crê vìgô,
Á írshänyá, á írshänyá, sá féhhá lhôñ óls-púnár.

Translation:
O fir-tree(diminutive), o fir-tree(dim), so faithful is thy(fam) foliage,
O fir-tree(diminutive), o fir-tree(dim), so faithful is thy(fam) foliage,
Them thou(fam)-wearest while it-is-hot,
and also while ice and cold there-is,
O fir-tree(diminutive), o fir-tree(dim), so faithful is thy(fam) foliage.

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(This sounds a lot better in Aluric than the translation makes it sound...)
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eldin raigmore · Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 6:11 pm Post subject:

Geez.
If you'd just posted the Aluhrsa song, and said it was "seasonal", and asked us to guess what it was a translation of, I'd have guessed "O Tannenbaum".
Thanks! Smile

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Tolkien_Freak · Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 12:13 am Post subject:

See if you can guess what this one is. It's probably not that hard.

Essinaye eheyatturei
Essinaye ryuyei
Yarui kedhyeun,
Enyau kedhyeun
Marayurei eilunirei ailuniyun,
Ailuniye ryuyei vayaruyeyude
Zanaikye yaruruwaze Eryuyei,
Zanaikye yaruruwaze Eryuyei

Hemicomputer · Joined: 04 Feb 2008 Posts: 610 Location: Calgary, Alberta

I like that you managed to make the Alurhsa (sorry for the lack of acutes, I'm on a strange computer) translation follow the rhyme and meter of the English!

I have no translation for this, but here's a Chanukah song called "Maoz Tsur" (Rock of Ages):

Ma'oz tsur yeshu'ati
Lecha na'eh lesha be'eh'yach

Tikon beit te-fi-la-ti
Ve sham toda neza'beh'eh'yach

Leh et tachin mat be-yach,
Mi tsar ham'na be-eh-eh-ehyach

Az egmor beshir mizmor
Chanukat hamizbe'eh'yach
(repeat last two lines)

Rock of Ages let our song
Praise thy saving power

Thou amidst the raging foes
Was our sheltering tower.

Furious, they assailed us,
But thine armour veiled us.

And thy word broke their sword
When our own strength failed us.
(repeat last two lines)

eldin raigmore · Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 3:31 pm Post subject:

Tolkien_Freak · Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 10:37 pm Post subject:

eldin raigmore · Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 6:13 pm Post subject:

StrangeMagic · Admin Joined: 18 Apr 2007 Posts: 640

Coa yangi, coa yangi
Bo oaj yangil
Ya, i anurun eigter shi
Nilg bararn chalé-upona

Have a guess at what the above song is. ^_^ And perhaps the vocabulary? Razz

halyihev · Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 1:41 am Post subject:

isepiki · Joined: 03 Jan 2008 Posts: 37

Coa yangi- Bells ring?
Bo oaj yangil- All time ring?
Ya, i anurun eigter shi- O, how fun to ride
Nilg bararn chalé-upona- on a one-horse sleigh?
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Hemicomputer · Joined: 04 Feb 2008 Posts: 610 Location: Calgary, Alberta

StrangeMagic · Admin Joined: 18 Apr 2007 Posts: 640

Well done, Hemicomputer, you're the closest. ^_^

The rest of it is all correct, except for the last line:

Nilg bararn chalé-upona
Nilg bararn chalé-up-ona
One horse sleigh-open-in

Sleigh - chalé is a quick creation, hence the similarity between the English and the Eleypherion similarities.

The "-in" bit is at the end of the sentence, because it is the inessive case. Razz

Hemicomputer · Joined: 04 Feb 2008 Posts: 610 Location: Calgary, Alberta

Guess this one. I've tried to make it so that it can be sung to the same tune, with some distortions of pronunciation.

Cá skiñov skiált xe omyul,
Júvan Krismas, júvan Krismas,
Cá skiñov skiált xe omjul,
Júvan Krismas, gí xîÿwr.

Al tló skiñov tsol xe jókx,
Júvan Krismas, júvan Krismas,
Al tló skiñov tsol xe jókx,
Júvan Krismas, gí xîÿwr.

eldin raigmore · Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 7:40 pm Post subject:

Hemicomputer · Joined: 04 Feb 2008 Posts: 610 Location: Calgary, Alberta

It is indeed "I saw three ships..".

Skiñov is ships! Xe is not three, it is a past tense particle.

"Júvan Krismas" is "Christmas day." I decided to drop the preposition "on" so that it would be easier to sing in rhythm.

Cá is 3, the reason that it is not common to both verses is that verse 2 translates literally as "and what/who did those ships have?" Again, this was altered slightly for the sake of correct rhythm.

eldin raigmore · Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 12:44 am Post subject:

W00t! I am so great! I am so great!
Very Happy

Thanks.
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