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Is This An Original Creature? Or Am I Just A Newbie?

 
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 9:04 am    Post subject: Is This An Original Creature? Or Am I Just A Newbie? Reply with quote

Well, I was thinking that I only have 2 mystical creatures in my conworld, where the twin kingdoms of Alirdyse and Layse are located, and they are the sand golems - Kleureunon or Kleurtheusos - and the vampires - Gerhierkon - (a ridiculous version of them). Lately I was thinking I needed something else, something less fleshy... and now I'd like to present this weird version of the trents or tree-people, the Anseunon (wood-like). Since I know they are common in RPG'ish books like LOTR and in games like (the infamous) D&D, I wanted to make them more cruel. Even so they are mindless beings that don't move at all whenever they are planted in good soil and blah, blah, blah, but things change if the land is burnt or it doesn't have all the required nutrients they need to survive.

At this point they don't seem special, well, they might not be special at all, but they can get some nutrients from another source, I mean, from animals and even humans or vampires or something like that. How do they get that from such "intelligent creatures"? Well, they have two ways to achieve their goal.

1. They produce sap that might attract some idiots, of course, this might also kill them if no human or animal lives nearby and they can't replenish it...
2. They forget about the bait and just focus on attacking the victim when it's the right time...

At the end they just use their roots or even their branches if they're desperate to get the nutrients. Sometimes they might even let some of the branches fall down to block the pass / exit or they get rid of them on purpose so the branches hit the animal or the human thus keeping their source of "food" safe. Then they'd make a last effort to make the roots grow and stab the victim or wrap it....

So, what do you think about this tree monster of mine? Is it different from any other tree-like being? Or did I just make a noob's mistake (once again)?
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 12:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

IRL there are plants that are "vampiric" on other plants. Mostly these are vines "vampiric" on trees; but some are trees "vampiric" on trees, etc.
Most climbing vines are more symbiotic, or at least commensal, with the trees they climb on, than parasitic; but many are at least partially parasitic.
In swamps and other locations where the soil is poor in certain nutrients that occur in animals, "carnivorous plants" have evolved. These include sundews and Venus's fly-traps, IIANM.
A phenomenon known as a "vegetable caterpillar" occurs when a caterpillar eats certain things. Mostly, I think, these are fungus-spores or parts of a fungus that can "regenerate" a whole fungus. However some are probably spores, or even seeds, of plants; probably gymnosperms like mosses and ferns are likelier to do this than plants with seeds, though.
The same thing can happen to ants, AIUI.

Plants don't move themselves from one place to another; but they do move. Sunflowers and other plants (even grass on a golf green!) can bend depending on the direction of the sunlight. And, of course, flowers open and close (as any floral clock will show). And some carnivorous plants can even move certain parts more rapidly than some animals can move; witness the leaves of a Venus's fly-trap.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 1:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

eldin raigmore wrote:
IRL..
"I recently learned?"
eldin raigmore wrote:
...IIANM.
What?

eldin raigmore wrote:
A phenomenon known as a "vegetable caterpillar" occurs when a caterpillar eats certain things. Mostly, I think, these are fungus-spores or parts of a fungus that can "regenerate" a whole fungus. However some are probably spores, or even seeds, of plants; probably gymnosperms like mosses and ferns are likelier to do this than plants with seeds, though.
The same thing can happen to ants, AIUI.
What exactly happens to the caterpillar or ant? Also, what is AIUI? Usually, I can understand your acronym neologisms, but these are a bit more difficult.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 3:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I believe IRL means "in real life", IIANM is "if I am not mistaken" and "AIUI" is "as I understand it".

But anyway, your tree creatures are quite interesting indeed. ^_^ I like them, do you think that they're going to have a language like the Ents?
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 3:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's the problem, if they do speak, then what would make them so different from the Ents? Nothing... I don't really want them to speak, instead they'd communicate by means of branch movements and changes in the coloration of their leaves. (I don't think this could let them "speak" a complex language, though.)
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 4:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah true, it would be interesting to see something of a Tree Sign Language.... intriguing. Razz Perhaps you could exlpore that? Or would their be any use of them talking in the first place?
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 7:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

StrangeMagic wrote:
I believe IRL means "in real life", IIANM is "if I am not mistaken" and "AIUI" is "as I understand it".
That's right.
Sorry, Hemicomputer. These abbreviations (or acronyms, if that's what they are) were once new to me, too. After you type the same phrase many times you get to the point where you'd like to abbreviate it. So AFAIK means "as far as I know" and TTBOMK means "to the best of my knowledge" and IIRC means "if I remember correctly" and so on. You can google on any of them and find out. If googling doesn't show it, then I probably shouldn't have used it, and you should ask me. I try not to use them where the phrase they stand for isn't almost predictable.
@ ne r8 ("at any rate" -- I just now made that one up):
Hemicomputer wrote:
What exactly happens to the caterpillar or ant?
If you bury a fish and plant a rose-seed above it, and the rose sprouts and its roots go into the fish, what happens to the fish? The plant "eats" it. That is, its roots absorb nutrients from the flesh of the animal. In the case of the buried fish the animal dies and is then absorbed; in the case of the ant or caterpillar the animal dies because the plant or fungus has begun to absorb parts of it. But just as the fish's skeleton may hold its shape for some time after its soft parts (and even some of its skeleton) have been absorbed, in the case of the ant or caterpillar the plant or fungus winds up having a part that's shaped just like an ant or a caterpillar.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 3:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's no problem if you use acronyms, I'll remember to google them before asking.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 6:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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...in the case of the ant or caterpillar the plant or fungus winds up having a part that's shaped just like an ant or a caterpillar.

Really? Or is it just some sort of coincidence? I guess it's just weird, like it never assimilated the insect...
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