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| It's more than a hobby, and I love it, but it's not real. |
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halyihev
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Location: Vermont, New England / Vrïtálá Kritsensá, Álurhná
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 Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 5:22 pm Post subject: Spiritual Connection to your Conworlds? |
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I figured this forum needed something posted here, so I thought I'd start with a question.
As I've stated, I have a very deep spiritual connection with the Alurhsa language, world, people, culture, etc. It's as though at some level my spirit *is* Alurhsa, as though it really exists somewhere and I'm remembering it and trying to record and share it as one who belongs to a culture might share their heritage with others around them.
How many other people here feel that way about their world, people, language, etc.? If you don't, then how *do* you relate to it? Is it just a hobby to pass the time, something you plan to use for a book or story, something you love but don't feel is in any way "real", or what?
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StrangeMagic
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| Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 7:27 pm Post subject: |
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| I don't have such deep connections with my conlang, however, I can imagine that creatures would speak it in a separate world. It is mainly for a story but I believe as I develop it further, I think that I may have a connection much more spiritual to it. |
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Sano Parmandil
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| Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 11:36 pm Post subject: |
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I think that should be a multi-choice poll, because my feelings go from the second to the fourth options  |
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eldin raigmore
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| Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 11:59 pm Post subject: Re: Spiritual Connection to your Conworlds? |
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| halyihev wrote: | I figured this forum needed something posted here, so I thought I'd start with a question.
As I've stated, I have a very deep spiritual connection with the Alurhsa language, world, people, culture, etc. It's as though at some level my spirit *is* Alurhsa, as though it really exists somewhere and I'm remembering it and trying to record and share it as one who belongs to a culture might share their heritage with others around them.
How many other people here feel that way about their world, people, language, etc.? If you don't, then how *do* you relate to it? Is it just a hobby to pass the time, something you plan to use for a book or story, something you love but don't feel is in any way "real", or what? |
Look at
http://www.chrisdb.me.uk/misc/conworld-code.html
The Conworld Code
-By M. Wiekens
especially at the sections
Supernatural Elements
Magic, ESP, Telekinesis, Rampaging divine beings... Things a that are not part of the scientific world as we know it.
SE5 - Supernatural Elements are the focus of my conworld or at least heavily abundant. Eclipsing technological/scientific matters entirely or nearly entirely.
SE4 - Supernatural Elements are widespread and a matter of importance.
SE3 - Supernatural Elements are important, but not abundantly present.
SE2 - Supernatural Elements play only a minor role.
SE1 - None, no magic/gods/psionics/fantasy science etc. exist at all.
Evangelism
I've found some constructed worlds to be little but... well.. propaganda for their authors personal beliefs. And that can make some of the more heavy handed ones kind of... annoying in my personal view. Basically this is about how much your own philosophies and attitudes influence(d) the creation of your conworld.
E5 - My conworld is strongly influenced by my personal beliefs (religious/political/philosophical etc.)
E4 - My conworld is notably influenced by my personal beliefs, but also to a lesser degree by other factors.
E3 - My conworld is influenced by my personal beliefs, but equally by many other things.
E2 - My conworld is influenced by my personal beliefs, but only to a small degree.
E1 - My conworld is not particularly influenced by my personal beliefs.
Purpose
Why'd you do it? Pick all that apply.
-rp - Roleplaying.
-b - To write a book about it.
-e - An exercise in philosophy/biology/linguistics/spirituality/sociology/science etc. (this includes creating a world for say... the languages, or the wildlife.)
-f - Just for fun!
-v - To be an illustration of my personal philosophies on what is right and wrong. And why that is so.
-o - Other. |
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halyihev
Joined: 23 Apr 2007
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Location: Vermont, New England / Vrïtálá Kritsensá, Álurhná
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| Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 2:22 pm Post subject: Re: Spiritual Connection to your Conworlds? |
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| eldin raigmore wrote: | | halyihev wrote: | I figured this forum needed something posted here, so I thought I'd start with a question.
As I've stated, I have a very deep spiritual connection with the Alurhsa language, world, people, culture, etc. It's as though at some level my spirit *is* Alurhsa, as though it really exists somewhere and I'm remembering it and trying to record and share it as one who belongs to a culture might share their heritage with others around them.
How many other people here feel that way about their world, people, language, etc.? If you don't, then how *do* you relate to it? Is it just a hobby to pass the time, something you plan to use for a book or story, something you love but don't feel is in any way "real", or what? |
Look at
http://www.chrisdb.me.uk/misc/conworld-code.html
The Conworld Code
-By M. Wiekens
(plus a whole lot more...)
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Not sure I'm quite following you here. Is your personal view somewhere in all that message? Or is it your site? Or are you advocating that I should be approaching the whole thing, or just this question, a different way than I am?
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Sehályensá Víláren/Bilingual Blog: http://blog.alurhsa.org
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eldin raigmore
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| Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 5:24 pm Post subject: Re: Spiritual Connection to your Conworlds? |
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| halyihev wrote: | | Not sure I'm quite following you here. Is your personal view somewhere in all that message? |
No. Or, at least, I wasn't saying which it is. (It's in there in the same sense that every word of the U.S. Constitution is in the dictionary.) | halyihev wrote: | | Or is it your site? |
No. It's Chris D. Bates's (the maths student from Notts) site; it's M. Wiekens's code. | halyihev wrote: | | Or are you advocating that I should be approaching the whole thing, or just this question, a different way than I am? |
Not suggesting you replace one approach with another; suggesting you, or others, might find Wiekens's "code" approach helpful in answering your question. Kind of suggesting everyone tell us about their conworlds in Wiekens's code, which, if filled out completely, would also give a (possibly very rough) rough answer to your question. |
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StrangeMagic
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| Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 6:32 pm Post subject: |
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I believe that that is a different way of stating our personal opinions about our conworlds.
If I use that system:
It would be SE4: Supernatural Elements are widespread and a matter of importance, E5: My conworld is strongly influenced by my personal beliefs (religious/political/philosophical etc.) , Rp: Roleplaying, B: To write a book about it, F: Just for fun and E: An exercise in philosophy/biology/linguistics/spirituality/sociology/science etc. |
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halyihev
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Location: Vermont, New England / Vrïtálá Kritsensá, Álurhná
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Ok, then by that system, mine would be:
SE3 (Supernatural Elements are important, but not abundantly present.), E3 (My conworld is influenced by my personal beliefs, but equally by many other things.), and -v (To be an illustration of my personal philosophies on what is right and wrong. And why that is so.) and -o (Other).
The problem, though, is that I really need a reverse-E3, and reverse-v, because it's more that my own personal philosophies have been modified the more I work on "rememebering" or "developing" (depending on your point of view) my conworld.
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Álurhsá Ólevár/Alurhsa Website: http://alurhsa.org
Sehályensá Víláren/Bilingual Blog: http://blog.alurhsa.org
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eldin raigmore
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| Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 7:54 pm Post subject: |
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| halyihev wrote: | | I really need a reverse-E3, and reverse-v, because it's more that my own personal philosophies have been modified the more I work on "rememebering" or "developing" (depending on your point of view) my conworld. |
That is interesting. |
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Soap
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I build my own religious ideas into my conworld, so I could be said to believe in the religion of my conworld, and I have said that several times myself, but since the ideas come from me first I dont like to imply that I live in "a fantasy world".
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Serali
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I believe in my conworld and it's languages so much I even have visions of it and dreams too!
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Eccentric Iconoclast
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I had a dream not too long ago where I spoke Mädëšk. the whole time and it was a complete language; after I awoke I managed to remember some of the more complex grammatical constructions and a lot of the vocabulary. It helped me understand my own conlang more.
I do have a deep connection to my conworld, but unlike you I don't know what culture I "should' have been born into - or I haven't even fully developed/remembered that culture yet. It really does seem like memories to me, too, but it's like I've just traveled through the world a lot. |
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Serali
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| Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 9:22 pm Post subject: |
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That's a cool dream. Glad it helped you understand your conlang better.
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eldin raigmore
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| Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 12:41 am Post subject: |
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| Soap wrote: | | I build my own religious ideas into my conworld, so I could be said to believe in the religion of my conworld, and I have said that several times myself, but since the ideas come from me first I dont like to imply that I live in "a fantasy world". |
I use my conworld and its concultures to work out different religious and/or spiritual ideas I haven't made up my mind about. Somebody *there* strongly believes! each thing I suspect could possibly be true (or am just not yet totally convinced is false).
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Serali
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Also I just wrote alot of basic stuff on my conworld for one of the members on the Omniglot forum because he/she was interested in it after I mentioned it in one of my post. I will post it soon.
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StrangeMagic
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| Cool! Looking forward to seeing it and hopefully adding a few more threads to the Conworld's board. |
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Serali
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Yeah I'll post it later.
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Tsiasuk-Pron
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| Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 2:46 am Post subject: |
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Hello everyone! Glad to finally be on board! No pun! More later...
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StrangeMagic
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| Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 10:32 am Post subject: |
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| Yay! I'm so glad that you are able to post now, (nice pun, by the way) |
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Tsiasuk-Pron
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As far as Itlani is concerned I feel that it is a RSR. That is a "Realm Somewhere Real". I also feel that psychically I live there. I have often dreamed of the place and in these dreams spoken Itlani. In these dreams I have often visited the same places and the details have remained stable.
I feel as if I am a hybrid, part Terran, part Itlani. The Itlani language is very much the language of my soul.
Please check out my website - new stuff is going up everyday!
Itlani:
Nashkudorizhe ta Itlanit shola chonyaru u HFD onyara. Idá onyara "Hazá Fazarait Darska". Prundji chonyaru u nikhizhe izá depikyaru. Rayizhe sheri ta brediey salashunyavu vey diniizhe iíd salashunenarun Itlanizhe eypyavor. Dini iíd salashunavá rayizhe ta pelit birovó kuteyravit onyaru vey ta tugu ordarit samyaven.
Sazhoyova abzhamek tikhodyaru, anamizhe Siareltán, anamizhe Itlantán. Ta Itlani shol pashni ta shol zhoyit nikha onyara.
Tashe zhoyit sobonrumelova zumyatay - fazhenit eynu izá sheyaspalizhe!
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