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eldin raigmore Admin
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Posted: Sat May 31, 2008 7:02 pm Post subject: TC: Dead Parrot |
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'E's not pinin'!
'E's passed on! This parrot is no more! He has ceased to be!
'E's expired and gone to meet 'is maker! 'E's a stiff!
Bereft of life, 'e rests in peace!
If you hadn't nailed 'im to the perch 'e'd be pushing up the daisies!
'Is metabolic processes are now 'istory! 'E's off the twig!
'E's kicked the bucket, 'e's shuffled off 'is mortal coil, run down the curtain and joined the bleedin' choir invisibile!!
THIS IS AN EX-PARROT!! _________________ "We're the healthiest horse in the glue factory" - Erskine Bowles, Co-Chairman of the deficit reduction commission |
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Hemicomputer
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Posted: Sat May 31, 2008 7:21 pm Post subject: |
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No translation prepared yet, but this looks to be quite the challenge. We'll have to create contractions and decide whether to translate literally or use equivalent metaphors. _________________ Bakram uso, mi abila, / del us bakrat, dahud bakrita! |
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Tolkien_Freak
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Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 1:41 pm Post subject: |
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Here's my go. This is actually correct Raitoliste, so it doesn't have as much the same feel to it. I don't really know how to get the same feel in Raitoliste.
Ua óno ovazw!
Ónua isw! Ua reiki marote dw! Nuwó dw!
Ónua tugasw à ónua sw óri ezale líhwreoio! Ua zïó kasw!
Déomu, o usw uatázeomi!
Ie ua ínua o usiazw merẃtieogi, óne deizirø ygasazw!
Óri dakatasazø wnaze reini! [I have no idea what this metaphor means]
Ónua ekasake sedakasazw, ónua ugasw reiki udámeogw, ugasw ihakámakeosw, à ygathazw iari uihetéhølemy!!
REIKE UATAMARÓTE!!
Not the best. It has too good of grammar and stuff. But it works.
(We should have more Monty Python translations...)
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Hemicomputer
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Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 1:56 pm Post subject: |
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Tolkien_Freak wrote: | Here's my go. This is actually correct Raitoliste, so it doesn't have as much the same feel to it. I don't really know how to get the same feel in Raitoliste. |
That's what I was getting at, TC's like this make you think about contraction and accents and different spelling as there would be in some real languages.
Not knowing Raitoliste, I have to ask: Did you translate things like "kick the bucket" literally, or use Raitoliste euphemisms?
Tolkien_Freak wrote: | (We should have more Monty Python translations...) |
Yes, I agree!! ![Very Happy](images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif) _________________ Bakram uso, mi abila, / del us bakrat, dahud bakrita! |
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Tolkien_Freak
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Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 2:44 am Post subject: |
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Hemicomputer wrote: | Not knowing Raitoliste, I have to ask: Did you translate things like "kick the bucket" literally, or use Raitoliste euphemisms? |
I translated literally. Raitoliste doesn't have any euphemisms just yet.
Quote: | Tolkien_Freak wrote: | (We should have more Monty Python translations...) |
Yes, I agree!! ![Very Happy](images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif) |
Working on it... |
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mrtoast2
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Posted: Tue May 12, 2009 6:16 pm Post subject: |
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I know I'm kind of bringing this back from the dead, but I was searching through my folder of conlanging on the weekend and I found this which I had started almost a year ago... looking back at it, it was amazing to see how much my language had changed since then, so I decided to give it another go with the current language.
Here goes...
Vén lé káltkórâkźénétén śálnôn!
Čévén bíblénróntîčlélšót bíbléngértén! Nál fíśtráś śópén káltdrônén śálnôn! Čévén bíblénkántôblélšót drã!
Dévén bíblénźátánlélšót búkśkân śôśk mákénšînkrán! Vén glônén brádpútén!
Śálnônbóf dér kórbérk, véndél čán génwîktâ śúlbtráčát!
Kõ dégórbrálśín lén kálwôvtíśén vén trálčórbílâdórśénprôt kãśál, vénśín čánén móbtânšêlén álbśárkîtán trálk rádéntúngértén!
Śôśkén vógrãmpánák dér wãlfûk śópén káltdrãn dér kénšôhál! Vénśín lén ámnútón vórškúpûgér õtél!
Lévénśín čán śólhám bíbléngénžîtôlélšót, éthágénśín śôśk kálwôvtíśén kórbérkśál čébíblénkúrmátéčlélšót õtél, éthágénśín dón bõlhák bíblénkúrśéntlélšót śálrádéntúngértén, éthágénśín lénfártúk bókśítkánt ákénlénśór bíblénféntûmínlélšót!!
NÁD KÁLTDRÔNÉN ŚÁLNÔN ÉLN FÍŚTRÁŚ!!
I'd give you a gloss to go with it, but I added a bunch of new things over the weekend, and I need to work out how to gloss them. _________________ Tôśt drônén kókślán! Vón kríngénã Tôśt! Gâgén šníkél dér îwâ! |
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eldin raigmore Admin
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Posted: Wed May 13, 2009 1:19 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks, Mr.Toast2.
(Also thanks to T_F, and a hearty "Go, Team! Go!" to Hemicomputer.) _________________ "We're the healthiest horse in the glue factory" - Erskine Bowles, Co-Chairman of the deficit reduction commission |
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Hemicomputer
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Posted: Sat May 16, 2009 5:59 am Post subject: |
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eldin raigmore wrote: | ..and a hearty "Go, Team! Go!" to Hemicomputer.) | What team? The Monty Python team? If so, yay team!
Ɣolhuks [EDIT: Updated romanization]:
Let wenvain'n! H' žé'n taus! Suk málňáni ɣenkóm! I hlén he cek'n! Vlăkṭ h' evaun, al nukúńo kúš' lúl kra h' žé'n! Žoi rideńo kó'n! Wimhlénturaś melain ɣoleho šaň! Sal kú h' wenlušaš minte dal, ň' oldekev tót avkin! Ăkwélá taranev rúňeśeluks kúš' taus kóm! Ňai setlamiš val kó'n! Ňai láj he mohcón, lańă hlénuks kúš' he mointan, ňai ɣástú h' oklot svéṭ al ň' áncik loińov wenlátelomyuks h' yakš! SUK ŽOI ƔENMÁLŇÁNI KÓM!
brackets indicate parts that were abbreviated out.
let wen-vain-(ó)n! h(e) žé(ă)-n taus! suk málňáni ɣen-kóm! i hlén he cek-(ó)n! vlăkṭ h(e) evaun, al nukú-ńo kú-š(i) lúl kra h(e) žé(ă)-n! žoi ride-ńo kó(m)-(ó)n! wim-hlén-tur-aś melain ɣoleho šaň! sal kú h(e) wen-luš-aš minte dal, ň(u) oldek-ev tó-t avki-n! ăkwélá taranev rú-geśel-uks kú-š(i) taus kóm! ňai se-tlamiš val kó(m)-(ó)n! ňai láj he mohc-ón, lańă hlén-uks kú-š(i) he mointa-n, ňai ɣástú h(e) oklot svéṭ al ň(u) áncik loi-ńo-v wen-lá-tel-omy(ă)-uks h(e) yakš! suk žoi ɣen-málgáni kóm!
PRS.PRG NEG-pine*-3! PST go-3 away! this parrot** no.longer-be! INF live PST stop-3! rotten PST become-3, and make-person 3-GEN meet for PST go-3! a stiff-person be-3! without-live-NOUN-ADV rest-3 peace in! if 3 PST NEG-attach-2 board to, the.pl daisy***-pl FUT-PRG push-3! now processes great-break-ADJ 3-GEN away be! the.sg DIM-branch off be-3! the.sg bucket PST kick-3, chain live-ADJ 3-GEN PST remove-3, the.sg curtain PST bring down and the.pl intensifying.cuss sing-person-pl NEG-CAP-PASSIVE-see-ADJ PST join! this a no.longer-parrot** be!
* I don't know what they mean by "pine" in this context. "Vín" is therefore a transliteration and not an actual verb.
** Or similar bird.
*** Or similar flower.
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eldin raigmore Admin
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Posted: Sun May 17, 2009 7:40 pm Post subject: |
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Hemicomputer wrote: | eldin raigmore wrote: | ..and a hearty "Go, Team! Go!" to Hemicomputer.) | What team? The Monty Python team? If so, yay team! | You had said Hemicomputer wrote: | No translation prepared yet, but this looks to be quite the challenge. We'll have to create contractions and decide whether to translate literally or use equivalent metaphors. | so I just wanted to "cheerlead" you.
Hemicomputer wrote: | Also:
Let úenvín'n! X'jé'n tâs! Swk málgäni henkóm! I xlén xi tcek'n! Vlukth x'evân, al nwkúño kúc' lúl kra x'jé'n! Jî rideño kó'n! Úimxléntwraç melín holexo cag! Sal kú x'úenlwcac minte dal, gw oldekev tót avkin! Ukúélátaranev rúgeçelws kúc' tâs kóm! Gí setlamic val kó'n! Gí ládj xe moxtcón, lañu xlénws kúc' xe mîntan, gí hástú x'oklot svéth al g' ántcik lîñov úenlátelomyws x'yakc! SWK JÎ HENMÁLGÄNI KÓM! | Looks like the "cheerleading" worked! Thanks, that's great!
Any chance of seeing it in your conscript, or is that it already?
Any chance of an interlinear morphemic gloss?
How 'bout a sound file of what it sounds like?
(No pressure.) ![Wink](images/smiles/icon_wink.gif) _________________ "We're the healthiest horse in the glue factory" - Erskine Bowles, Co-Chairman of the deficit reduction commission |
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Hemicomputer
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Posted: Sun May 17, 2009 7:52 pm Post subject: |
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eldin raigmore wrote: | I just wanted to "cheerlead" you. |
Oh, okay.
eldin raigmore wrote: |
Any chance of seeing it in your conscript, or is that it already? | Definitely.
eldin raigmore wrote: | Any chance of an interlinear morphemic gloss? | Perhaps. I'm not too sure how to gloss abbreviations.
eldin raigmore wrote: | How 'bout a sound file of what it sounds like? | Since I've finally found a good way to get sounds onto my computer, sure! |
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eldin raigmore Admin
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Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 3:12 pm Post subject: |
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Hemicomputer wrote: | eldin raigmore wrote: | Any chance of seeing it in your conscript, or is that it already? | Definitely. | Definitely which? Definitely "that's already my conscript", or definitely "there's a chance of seeing it in my conscript"?
Hemicomputer wrote: | --- (the other stuff you said) --- | Good. and
Thanks.
and
I look forward to it. _________________ "We're the healthiest horse in the glue factory" - Erskine Bowles, Co-Chairman of the deficit reduction commission |
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Hemicomputer
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Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 7:42 pm Post subject: |
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eldin raigmore wrote: | Hemicomputer wrote: | eldin raigmore wrote: | Any chance of seeing it in your conscript, or is that it already? | Definitely. | Definitely which? Definitely "that's already my conscript", or definitely "there's a chance of seeing it in my conscript"? | Definitely you can see it in the actual conscript. |
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