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Serali
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| mrtoast2 wrote: | | I'll post them when I make them, I promise! Also, I will post Calligraphic Gwakkian and my new, yet-to-be-named script as soon as my scanner is working. |
Oh yes you will! Or else!  JK! But I'm definitely looking forward to seeing those. I also have some new scripts that I will be posting soon.
So I'm looking forward to everything coming! Oh and how on earth did you make that flag?! I need to know because none of my con countries have flags.
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Hemicomputer
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| Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 1:03 pm Post subject: |
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| Serali wrote: | | ...Oh and how on earth did you make that flag?! I need to know because none of my con countries have flags.... |
If you're talking to me, I made it in PowerPoint and did a screen capture to make it a jpeg.
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Serali
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| Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 1:13 pm Post subject: |
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Yes I was talking to you and thank you for the info. I'll shall Google it.
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eldin raigmore
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| Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 2:57 pm Post subject: |
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| miaphenthus wrote: | | In my conworld, most are anarchists, so they don't recognize a need for a flag. Tribes develop their own sense of morality and ethics without a constitution. |
Flags, vexilla, totems, badges, coats-of-arms, mons, seals, liveries, etc. are not necessarily tokens of authority, nor of government, nor of laws, nor of private property.
If your tribes have any tribal sense of morality and ethics, rather than purely personal morality and ethics, they're likely to have symbols of such things.
If your tribes are aware that they are tribes, with members and non-members; and people know which tribes they're in and which they're not in; they'll probably have symbols by which they can make their membership known. Even if every tribe is small enough that every member recognizes every other member on sight, still, there will be times when a member is not actually at a location at the moment, but wants other members to know he or she usually will be there; or when a member will want other members to know he or she is a member, even from too far away to recognize him or her individually.
If there's any need for people to dress in such a way that their physical features can't be used to identify them -- for instance, wrapping up against polar cold, or wrapping up against desert conditions, or wearing armor that covers too much of the face and head (sometimes, if it just covers the hair, ears, and neck, that will be too much) -- then they will want some mark they can wear that will identify them either individually or as a member of their tribe.
If the tribe has property -- whether or not its members have individual property -- or if the members have property -- whether or not the tribe has collective property -- there often will be a need to identify it even when the owner(s) isn't/aren't actually holding it or standing or sitting on or in it at the moment. For instance, any missile might be marked to show whose it is; arrows, spears, boomerangs, etc. This may be important because the missile might be re-usable; and/or it may be important in order to identify who hit what. Also, any domesticated animal will probably be marked somehow to show who is the owner, especially if there are no fences. And, if there are fences, they will probably be marked to show whose property is on which side.
If there is any need for the members of a tribe to know where their rallying-point is from a distance, the custom of lifting the tribe's totem or symbol or whatever on some kind of pole or standard will probably arise. In some cases this will need to be movable. This is, in fact, how flags arose; a movable pole with the totem on top. It began to be decorated, with stuff like ox-tails or horse-tails or ribbons or whatever; as time went on, the ribbons grew into a flag, while the totem shrank into a finial.
In real life this was most notably needed in battle. So the finial of many flags is a spear-head. But there may be other reasons to need it. Even if it never needs to be mobile, it may still need to be high -- consider totem-poles.
Mottoes, battle-cries, and passwords (or "shibboleths") will also be needed, even in your society.
Even if there is no private property, no war, no government, no law, no stealing, and no killing, chances are your people will need something or other to stand in for flags; otherwise your Utopia will be so much like Heaven that people never even could get lost or separated, in which case why would it be interesting?
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| Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 12:05 am Post subject: |
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| eldin raigmore wrote: | | ...Flags, vexilla, totems, badges, coats-of-arms, mons, seals, liveries, etc. are not necessarily tokens of authority, nor of government, nor of laws, nor of private property.... |
Exactly! In addition to the flag, a new-ish addition, my people have various badges that denote trade, training/education level, and clan affiliation. There was never any one ruler and there still isn't.
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mrtoast2
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| Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 12:09 am Post subject: |
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| Hemicomputer wrote: | | Serali wrote: | | ...Oh and how on earth did you make that flag?! I need to know because none of my con countries have flags.... |
If you're talking to me, I made it in PowerPoint and did a screen capture to make it a jpeg. |
You can also group the objects, then you could either copy it into another program (like paint) and save it as a jpeg, or you can right-click on it in powerpoint and click Save as Picture. I'm not sure if you can save it as a jpeg there, it may just be an emf. In which case you would have to export it as a jpeg.
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Hemicomputer
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| Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 12:34 am Post subject: |
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| mrtoast2 wrote: | | Hemicomputer wrote: | | Serali wrote: | | ...Oh and how on earth did you make that flag?! I need to know because none of my con countries have flags.... |
If you're talking to me, I made it in PowerPoint and did a screen capture to make it a jpeg. |
You can also group the objects, then you could either copy it into another program (like paint) and save it as a jpeg, or you can right-click on it in powerpoint and click Save as Picture. I'm not sure if you can save it as a jpeg there, it may just be an emf. In which case you would have to export it as a jpeg. |
Yeah, that might be more useful advice (to Serali). I use a Mac, so my methods will obviously be different (assuming that she uses a PC).
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Serali
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| Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 2:18 am Post subject: |
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Does Windows XP count as a PC?
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| Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 5:43 am Post subject: |
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Yes. I have the bad habit of saying "PC" instead of "Windows", even though PC applies to any operating system.
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Serali
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That's why I asked.
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