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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 5:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can you believe that I was actually going to suggest some dialect of French?! As for that I have no clue.


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 8:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

actually halyihev, you are extremely close, but it isnt neopalotin (or whatever). keep guessing!! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 9:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

langover94 wrote:
actually halyihev, you are extremely close, but it isnt neopalotin (or whatever). keep guessing!! Very Happy


I presume that makes it Sicilian? Definitely one of the Italian dialects.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 9:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

your right that it's an italian dialect, but it isnt sicilian. Very Happy WOOHOO i really came up with a good one this time Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 10:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

langover94 wrote:
your right that it's an italian dialect, but it isnt sicilian. Very Happy WOOHOO i really came up with a good one this time Very Happy


Well, sort of. The problem is that I don't consider the dialects of a language to count as separate languages. It's kind of like if I post something and use some of the dialectal pronunciations common to native Vermonters, and say I'm not posting in English, I'm posting in Vermonter. Unless you're familiar with, or have a listing of, every single odd dialectal spelling, there's no way you could guess that.

So, short of simply finding a list of all the regions of Italy and working through them one by one, I'm unlikely to get this. Neapolitan was the one that looked closest on Wikipedia, given that it's the only one I saw that doubled the N at the front of words when the preposition "In" was there.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 12:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

that's true.... want me to give you a hint? it starts with a tar
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 1:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here we go, it's from the Tarandíne Wikipedia!

(honestly, I just did ctrl-f for 'tar' on the www.wikipedia.org page, and Tarandíne was the first one that came up.)
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 2:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm afraid my knowledge of Italy is not sufficient to localize that. Where is it spoken?

Oh, and while we're doing challenges, how about this one:

Dadani wa hina wa le tilweni, A bito ga wena a gi hlawuliwe. A wute mufumo wa wena. Kuranza ka wena a ku mahiwe, misabeni kota leži ku mahiwako le tilweni. Hi nyike nyamukla a kuga ka hina ka siku ginwani ni ginwani. Hi tsetselele a milanzu ya hina, kwatsi hileži hi ba tsetselelako laba
ba nga ni milanzu ka hina. U nga hi yisi kuringweni, kanileži hi klaklise ka loyi wa kubiha.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 12:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It looks like some language spoken in Africa, basing just on surface similarities. It most likely isn't Swahili, but what.........hmmm
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 1:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yssida wrote:
It looks like some language spoken in Africa, basing just on surface similarities. It most likely isn't Swahili, but what.........hmmm


Correct on Africa. And correct that it is *not* Swahili. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 1:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TF, youre right that it is tarandien, a.k.a. tarantino. it is spoken in the town of Aguila, in south italy. as for the african language, im gonna say that it's isiZulu? that's a guess but i think it's a sufficient one.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 5:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

langover94 wrote:
TF, youre right that it is tarandien, a.k.a. tarantino. it is spoken in the town of Aguila, in south italy. as for the african language, im gonna say that it's isiZulu? that's a guess but i think it's a sufficient one.


Wow. Definitely not one I'd have guessed!

As for the African one, right end of the continent at least, and the language does have some speakers in South Africa, although that is not its primary heartland. Not Zulu.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 9:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is Xitswa ! It's amazing the things you can find through Google (I did a search on 'hlawuliwe').


Here, this one's not hard, so I'll post two:

Attolma i menelessie, nai airitainiéve esselya. Nai ardalya tuluva. Nai írelya tyarniéva mardesse ve menelesse. Anta men síre ilyaurea mastalma. Ar avanta men raicalmar ve avantalme raicatyarolmain. Ar nai útucuvalye me mailenna ná fainu me ulcallo.


Second:
Unse Vader in' Himmel !
Laat hilligt warrn dienen Namen.
Laat kamen dien Riek.
Laat warrn dienen Willen so as in'n Himmel,
so ok op de Eerd.
Uns' dääglich Brood giff uns vundaag.
Un vergiff uns unse Schuld,
as wi di vergeben hebbt,
de an uns schüllig sünd.
Un laat uns nich versöcht warrn.
Mak uns frie vun dat Böse.
Denn dien is dat Riek un de Kraft un de Herrlichkeit in Ewigkeit.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 2:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the second one is most definitely either dutch or german. i'm going to go with dutch for 2 reasons.

a) because of all the double vowels.

b) i have a friend (who i happen to have a crush on) that speaks dutch.

edit: AHA!!!!! i have just found out (through a google search) that the first one is quenya!!!!!!! i searched on the word "menelessie" and it came up with a link that said, "the lord's prayer in quenya". so that is what i'm going to go with.

edit: omg are these both the lords prayer? KA-CHING I AM SOOOOO GOOD! and by the way, i know that the second one is dutch now because father is "vader" in dutch. just like "Darth Vader" (dark father).
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 9:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the second one is definitely a germanic lang. It isn't German, it isn't Dutch, it definitely isn't Nordic since it looks closer to the former two. Just because it looks weird, I'd have to guess its some sort of dialect of Low German or something really close.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 11:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep, first is Quenya, second is Plattdüütch (I think I spelled that right...).

These are fun. Next!
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 6:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tolkien_Freak wrote:
Yep, first is Quenya, second is Plattdüütch (I think I spelled that right...).

These are fun. Next!


I wasn't sure on Quenya, although I had a feeling that might be it. I did think of Plattdüütsch because I have a book of Die Märchen von Grimm, and several of the stories are in Plattdüütsch, not Hochdeutsch.

And you were right on with Xitswa, although I've always seen it listed as Tswa.

How about this:

Nmitôgwesna spempik aiian,
sôgmowal negwadji eliwisian,
K'tabaldamwôgan paiômwiji,
kolaldamwôgan likitôgwadji tali kik taôlawi,
tali spemkik.
Mômilina nikwôbi pamkisgak nedattaskiskwai abônmena,
ta anhaldamawina n'palalokawôgannawal taôlawi,
niuna ali anhaldamawôak,
ta akwi losalina wnemihodwôganek,
wiji kadniwadaki tôni majigek.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 7:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

its west abnaki, a language spoken in quebec. (at least that's what the web page said)
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 9:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe we should disallow Google searches, they make it almost too easy.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 1:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tolkien_Freak wrote:
Maybe we should disallow Google searches, they make it almost too easy.


Alternatively those of us posting the languages can stop selecting from the Internet.

So along *that* line, how about:

so pluu vy a vay la
a rhay errusay nethee la rhay na
o rhee no beas t'ear rhee ay na
ahe rhay
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