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PostPosted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 11:32 pm    Post subject: Concept-based conlang Reply with quote

While not studying for exams, I'm working on a concept-based conlang, such that most complex words are derived from a base root lexicon of maybe a few hundred. It's a basic SVO order for ease of chronological marking etc.

I'm also using the semi-case system I'm still working on (population 55 so far).

Basic markers include:
1st/2nd/3rd person,
singular/dual/paucal/plural
masculine/feminine/neuter
animate/inanimate

And word modifiers (turning one type of word into another):
->verb
-> noun
-> adjective

Example:
sit (verb): la
love seat: lavant [sit.DU.N] "that which is sat upon by two people"
couch: lajant [sit.PL.N] "that which is sat upon by multiple people"
chair: lalant [sit.SG.N] "that which is sat upon by one person"
etc

The phonology is pretty simple, the most common sounds in Indo-European languages (occurring 75%+):
m n N
p b t d k g
f s S
l j
a e i o u

also: v z Z h r (r: flap)

Phonotactics: (V)(V)C(C)V(V)

In practice, there is a shortening of vowels like in Japanese such that sitiero ("I want to go") becomes stiero. Similarly, words ending in the -nt nominalization suffix tend towards a nasalization of the preceding vowel, without true production of a final consonant.

Example sentence:

"I want to go to the couch again"
1SG.VOL.GO.RE.ALL.sit.PL.N
this can be separated by spaces between the subject, object, etc, and the ALL (which infers the couch being the dative).
sitieronumbalajant
sitieronumba lajant
sitieronu mbalajant
si tieronumbalajant
si tieronumba lajant
si tieronu mbalajant

Other word examples:
ASL: speak.VIAL.hand "to speak by way of hands / hand-speech"
envy: VOL.other.POSS "to want that which another person has"
linguistics: speak.system.PL.learn.DAT "the learning of the systems of/used for speaking" = "the study of languages"

This seems an ideal conlang to use a logography for - I might develop this further into a system of derivational affixes (radicals), root logographs/modifiers (the BASIC words), and complex/combined words.

Example using Traditional Chinese characters:
isolated radical 口; logograph 句; complex 哭, etc.

This is mostly an intermediary until I have the time to better research the idea of a conlang optimized for communication via understanding of the way knowledge/etc is organized. I plan on starting an essay on that as well once exams let up.

Thoughts?
Also: could people post content words (nouns/verbs/adjectives) to test the derivation system? Thanks!


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 11:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the "concept-base"-ed-ness of it is very appealing, at least to me.

You might want to check into certain Algonquian languages (and maybe other Native North American languages) such as Nishnaabemwin.
And/or look up "slot-and-filler morphology". I'm pretty sure that will be of interest, too.
Maybe "templatic morphology" would also be of interest; I'm less sure.

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IMO any natlang, and therefore any conlang with "naturalism" and "realism" as design goals, is going to be in trouble if it doesn't have at least one "open class" of words/lexemes -- a class into which new words are being borrowed or in which new words are being created.

You have to lay out your 'langs methods of lexicogeny or rhematopoeia (fancy words for "word-coining"), and say which of them are currently, synchronically, productive.

I don't think your available options for word-coining are going to be sufficient if you can't coin or borrow brand new roots. So I think your open class probably is going to have to have a way of getting new root-members.

So I don't really think you're going to be able to describe a system in which you have a few roots or parts-of-roots, and a few methods of making new roots out of old ones and their parts, and say all new roots will come from those.

For one thing your language will borrow words from other languages.

However, Nishnaabemwin, and other natlangs, have a system of roots (in some cases noun roots, in some cases verb roots, in some cases both) that are made up of:
a required Initial part,
an optional Medial part,
and an optional Final part.
These parts have less meaning than a "morpheme", but more than just a syllable or phoneme-string.

Simple noun-roots almost all consist of an Initial and a Final, or an Initial and a Medial and a Final.

Nearly every Initial can be used with nearly any Final and vice-versa, without a Medial.
Many, if not most, Initials, can also be used stand-alone, with no Medial and no Final.
The Initials are the open class*, and are the biggest class. (See "complex nouns"* below.)

The Finals are the next-biggest class but they are closed. The addition of a Final to and Initial, or the replacement of one Final with another, is pretty transparent; the meanings tend to be consistent.
I think it's possible that a few Finals may be usable without any Initial or Medial, but I'm not sure I remember that right.

The smallest of those three classes are the Medials.
A Medial can never be used on its own; it always requires either an Initial or a Final or both.
Several Medials can be used only with a few Initials each (which Initials varies from one Medial to another); but IIRC all or nearly all such Medials can be used with any or almost any Final.
Several Medials can be used only with a few Finals each (which Finals varies from one Medial to another); but IIRC all or nearly all such Medials can be used with any or almost any Initial.
I think there may be some Medials that can be used without a Final, but I might be wrong; I think there may be some Medials that can be used without an Initial, but I may be wrong about that.
I don't know whether there are any Medials that can be used with almost every Initial and also with almost every Final. If I remember correctly there are no or few Medials that can only be used with only a few Intials and only a few Finals.

The meanings of Medials are rather idiosyncratic and unpredictable. If two nouns have the same Initial and the same Final, but one has a Medial and the other doesn't, someone who's never heard one of them before can be sure they have related meanings, but will be partly-guessing what the meaning of the new nouns is (often a fairly educated guess and fairly likely to be correct, but, ...). The same goes if they have the same Initial and the same Final and two different Medials.
Then find a different pair of Initial and Final, and use the same Medials with them, and your previous experience is an inexact guide, not bound to be correct, to guessing how the meanings are related.

*Complex noun-rootss are made the same way except that the Initial of a complex noun can be an entire simple noun-root; or even an entire complex-but-not-quite-as-complex noun-root.

Some languages related to Nishnaabemwin have a similar arrangement for their verb-roots.

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If you look at Bantu languages' noun-classes (genders), or at the numeral-classifiers of languages with lots of them, and figure out what they do with a brand new noun, you'll see that they borrow or create the noun first, then figure out what class it belongs to.

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Does any of that help?
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 11:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lists of words:
various:
don't
it's
I'm
I've
can't
that's
you're
I'd
I'll
there's
won't
you'll
he's
they're
what's
you've
we're
aren't
let's
here's
you'd
we've
we'll
she's
who's
one's
they've
ain't
weren't
they'll
he'd
God's
they'd
world's
we'd
he'll
man's
year's
she'd
men's
where's
friend's
she'll
week's
child's
earth's
John's
girl's
how's
sun's
guy's
state's
didn't
isn't
haven't
wouldn't
wasn't
couldn't
shouldn't
hasn't
gonna
people's
it'll
hadn't
gotta
women's
wanna
else's
person's
woman's
mother's
country's
other's
father's
nation's
author's
master's
America's
doesn't
today's
children's
someone's
company's
government's
everyone's
anyone's
collector's
president's
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 11:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lists of words:
Adjectives
same
used
real
big
nice
poor
rare
glad
odd
vast
mere
strict
drunk
vague
brave
bold
sheer
cruel
harsh
slick
dire
loyal
prone
apt
sore
blond
able
happy
previous
recent
final
foreign
proper
valid
afraid
curious
busy
mental
angry
naked
ugly
severe
rational
mutual
sudden
vital
oral
intense
clever
subtle
precise
diverse
natal
precious
intact
hungry
polite
bizarre
bitter
obscene
immune
crucial
humble
casual
bogus
naive
nether
thorough
eager
sincere
wicked
rabid
liable
covert
superb
gorgeous
modest
jealous
blatant
civic
rigid
adverse
lethal
capable
fantastic
desperate
tremendous
genuine
inferior
erotic
generous
secular
galactic
feasible
compatible
secondary
eligible
elementary
medieval
vulnerable
higher
newer
skilled
easy
latest
partial
obvious
older
funny
active
sexual
global
complex
helpful
decent
careful
alive
bigger
worldwide
crazy
famous
friendly
patient
useless
healthy
violent
ethnic
younger
icy
pregnant
grateful
frequent
lowest
silent
excess
awful
finest
bloody
urban
awesome
racial
wooden
neutral
closest
linear
brilliant
shorter
cosmic
sacred
outer
worthy
fuzzy
verbal
nearest
lazy
sexy
endless
fatal
distant
peaceful
scary
foolish
blessed
alike
widespread
worthless
worthwhile
primal
deadly
clueless
simpler
safer
wealthy
lousy
anal
chronic
Celtic
oldest
harmful
wholesale
tricky
pointless
payable
outdoor
selfish
sonic
thermal
outright
lucid
righteous
longest
teenage
unclear
heavier
sticky
wretched
strongest
furry
indoor
tidal
mutant
smallest
faulty
factual
aged
countless
skinny
lengthy
happier
nicer
spinal
brutal
hardy
unsure
horny
slightest
crappy
simplest
filthy
fuller
greedy
absent
broader
hardest
similar
technical
regular
financial
religious
separate
wonderful
beautiful
primary
relevant
unable
corporate
dangerous
typical
accurate
critical
electric
liberal
uncommon
creative
numerous
logical
reliable
spiritual
valuable
sufficient
demonic
unusual
visible
attractive
terrible
genetic
suitable
incorrect
eternal
ignorant
substantial
flexible
minimal
clinical
strategic
horrible
magical
pathetic
adequate
optical
enormous
aggressive
volcanic
unstable
dramatic
dominant
talented
organic
confident
paranoid
acoustic
prominent
atomic
usable
symbolic
celestial
readable
interstate
competent
intensive
judicial
primitive
selective
probable
skeptical
tactical
biblical
cognitive
immoral
historic
ancestral
uncanny
evident
unholy
terrific
unhappy
hypnotic
athletic
pertinent
exotic
optimal
abusive
fabulous
elegant
suspicious
synthetic
miserable
authentic
notable
fortunate
ironic
dishonest
supportive
credible
infernal
reluctant
political
economic
reasonable
impossible
traditional
elemental
comfortable
temporary
ordinary
legitimate
desirable
artificial
occasional
arbitrary
innovative
comparable
repetitive
molecular
profitable
literary
beneficial
remarkable
advisory
voluntary
negotiable
indigenous
incapable
planetary
deliberate
unfamiliar
preferable
unsigned
unused
ashamed
compliant
internal
expensive
scientific
successful
immediate
resistant
extensive
consistent
efficient
classical
optional
apparent
realistic
functional
outstanding
graphical
progressive
impressive
ongoing
cellular
explicit
productive
incomplete
definite
meaningful
excessive
ethical
geographic
indecent
meaningless
mysterious
inherent
unopened
structural
artistic
enjoyable
immortal
civilized
arrogant
infamous
unwanted
coherent
outrageous
assorted
adjacent
unwilling
unified
intuitive
unpleasant
available
international
additional
unlimited
interactive
electrical
acceptable
incredible
mechanical
emotional
irrelevant
accessible
applicable
invisible
theoretical
continental
unofficial
mandatory
knowledgeable
animated
relational
elaborate
numerical
unrelated
governmental
residential
reputable
peripheral
inadequate
undefined
biological
exceptional
definitive
promotional
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 11:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lists of words:
Minor parts-of-speech
the
to
of
and
you
for
or
if
but
at
from
my
your
they
an
what
me
we
he
which
when
who
their
his
them
how
than
her
our
she
us
where
its
him
why
since
each
both
via
plus
whose
yours
lo
whom
ah
huh
eh
bye
oops
ye
ours
thou
theirs
hers
gosh
because
after
against
until
whether
unless
along
across
among
toward
despite
versus
unto
beneath
alas
into
himself
onto
towards
throughout
herself
unlike
whereas
amongst
beside
goodbye
oneself
whatever
whenever
whoever
wherever
besides
yourselves
albeit
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 11:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lists of words:
Nouns
way
world
year
thing
day
lot
card
life
fact
John
web
word
kind
law
text
week
disk
house
pub
men
night
sale
none
Paul
car
guy
Mike
Id
friend
York
death
street
month
Steve
Al
client
road
James
mode
choice
child
Jim
Tom
art
Dave
health
luck
food
song
Joe
brain
Dan
door
ma
truth
king
suite
blood
Scott
length
church
hour
George
tech
van
smith
Brian
son
path
style
boy
hair
Jeff
girl
peace
feet
wife
ball
cat
mouse
town
sea
speech
Tim
Charles
oil
mouth
crime
hall
script
tool
role
soul
scene
pa
hill
flight
loss
faith
self
June
cache
France
tree
fee
beach
Sam
goal
gas
strength
Bruce
Meg
gene
Matt
league
Max
lab
bell
Greg
beer
clock
Ron
Jones
wood
birth
ray
Ben
lake
Rick
glass
noise
Christ
Phil
sky
Doug
rod
spleen
font
bird
den
Ted
threat
math
sec
Keith
queen
zone
bass
jay
sheet
sword
disc
rice
beast
cell
Howard
mom
boat
vice
Carl
Fred
meat
tongue
dice
Todd
guest
tube
breath
dean
priest
Joel
Ryan
clothes
theme
lane
debt
Wayne
youth
Pete
Ann
Clark
jazz
desk
lung
doc
pot
chi
wine
chest
heck
Lynn
Sean
hay
depth
Brad
pal
jet
goods
Moore
duke
brass
folk
wealth
dad
Luke
gift
hat
joy
ton
sake
mud
cod
ear
flesh
fork
chess
cop
Ross
cloth
rep
prince
teeth
bush
ghost
belt
clay
cult
fruit
pearl
scope
Roy
golf
Kurt
batch
prayer
snail
Jane
Anne
inn
quest
Greece
dale
sen
mile
blade
prof
Graham
corps
par
mag
lens
tab
horn
Kirk
bread
Oz
Shawn
amp
newt
tea
cheese
trend
Forbes
Glenn
Ralph
fate
cage
orb
lynx
fort
creek
Brett
bull
wright
shirt
Pope
Mars
myth
witch
cad
throat
Spain
node
dot
Lloyd
eve
pen
Kent
spec
mall
lion
fleet
juice
dirt
fraud
hood
sheep
mob
bow
mood
rat
yard
skull
stealth
realm
elf
rand
pad
ridge
dram
ace
dude
Jo
Stuart
yeast
hip
ghoul
gap
clause
tear
punk
lamp
reed
Floyd
porn
drake
grain
meal
Hayes
maze
Kate
oak
gulf
verse
norm
grad
saint
cent
Nam
Jake
Stan
tale
glen
tomb
fame
fist
dell
earl
pi
hemp
throne
tome
josh
Hugh
Troy
spite
imp
sauce
Juan
sync
pole
roof
shelf
wrath
bath
bout
Jew
shaw
lust
flux
Rome
cape
globe
wand
bench
Russ
grid
Holmes
waist
bronze
Hal
poem
spine
Lou
cliff
Beth
marsh
guilt
flair
Gus
couch
corn
helm
pie
deer
ale
noon
mill
Chad
theft
Vince
squad
coal
Maine
doe
Walt
fur
cord
sperm
valve
vise
volt
Jacques
quad
graph
tribe
hub
Wales
booth
nut
Ruth
spouse
wrist
heel
mayor
zoo
pod
greed
thief
Coke
stance
jeans
sleeve
chunk
Neal
chord
nerve
mice
Yale
wit
clan
Mel
wheat
herb
pun
hag
brick
biz
cole
vale
grief
grove
silk
hose
straw
owl
crypt
lore
Schwartz
rag
cam
monk
flaw
Liz
bra
thorn
moss
rim
hive
bride
fin
asp
ranch
crotch
guild
oath
ash
pond
cheek
bean
gym
cone
mat
flute
poet
moose
Marx
lamb
flea
watt
quark
cab
dough
tray
crude
lip
chow
Thor
Hank
bee
Bach
wraith
trunk
shark
bulb
torque
sleight
gal
gem
tent
Rex
Twain
babe
chick
beard
gag
tooth
frog
stud
yarn
gloom
scum
Noah
ion
phi
reef
tiff
system
problem
message
version
address
money
person
area
info
business
David
music
body
women
country
city
Michael
language
story
office
title
format
response
Robert
woman
apple
member
record
letter
Richard
window
period
nature
Thomas
method
device
purpose
contract
island
advice
status
moment
event
mother
degree
Europe
spirit
William
volume
engine
album
Eric
Andrew
Japan
culture
Martin
effort
season
April
morning
item
mountain
army
logic
China
Alan
content
resource
defense
forum
minute
nation
dragon
mission
Jason
menu
Daniel
India
metal
session
Tony
Larry
river
suspect
Gary
Stephen
region
planet
lady
traffic
goblin
Mary
valley
liver
guitar
Bible
platform
county
dollar
brother
Joseph
July
Santa
disease
chapter
plenty
manner
Henry
council
Roger
Patrick
impact
Jose
Israel
Barry
hotel
Louis
Andy
August
lotus
weapon
medicine
expert
panel
daughter
pattern
Austin
excuse
chaos
belief
Russia
organ
evening
visa
Alex
combat
coffee
camera
angel
cancer
diamond
Dallas
latter
terry
Matthew
desert
circuit
sister
forest
technique
conflict
supreme
Dennis
creature
heaven
Susan
quantum
empire
laser
Taylor
hero
fortune
Simon
motif
column
monster
portion
auto
protein
aspect
Ada
Lewis
jersey
Phoenix
duty
era
Kelly
parent
Allen
Paris
bonus
fragment
Pascal
Edward
icon
tissue
retail
photo
campus
Asia
Lisa
turkey
Taiwan
legend
crystal
temple
vampire
matrix
prison
village
armor
Gordon
dinner
lightning
robin
horror
beauty
danger
Karen
garbage
wizard
symbol
hockey
novel
Islam
concert
Arthur
Quebec
Russell
victim
dozen
castle
Lawrence
Latin
leather
Iowa
segment
Jordan
penis
ocean
Donald
warren
Philip
gender
uncle
Aaron
robot
Saturn
notion
Albert
talent
theatre
Delphi
jacket
Nancy
museum
combo
Walter
Linda
glory
commerce
kitchen
druid
chocolate
Carter
estate
Denver
Java
Mitchell
Morgan
Morris
Hitler
protest
honey
Korea
contrast
relief
Kansas
demon
victor
Utah
Kenneth
marshall
theater
socket
behalf
buddy
bullet
Laura
Harvard
shuttle
nova
devil
Lincoln
falcon
acorn
Murray
complaint
substance
elite
rebel
phantom
Iran
Clara
Amy
lesson
Sydney
offense
Detroit
Allah
Vegas
bureau
hobby
arcade
Norman
statue
ritual
Sarah
latex
Ronald
cartridge
radar
cannon
tunnel
soccer
arrow
essence
Berlin
crusade
Dylan
treaty
barrier
vinyl
insult
Satan
Homer
syndrome
metro
guru
opera
spider
decade
Francis
climate
cassette
eagle
defence
mason
Cuba
courage
chamber
Moscow
Janet
Belgium
carol
canon
habit
Joshua
Hebrew
boulder
tennis
Samuel
province
prism
Austria
Julie
Franklin
Orleans
Brazil
Wallace
Nathan
receipt
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 11:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 11:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Easier list of words; fewer, more frequent, shorter words
(JJ=adjective, NN=noun, RB=adverb, VB=verb)
Code:

Word         POS
same         JJ     
used          JJ
real           JJ
big            JJ
nice           JJ
poor          JJ
rare          JJ
glad          JJ
able          JJ
happy        JJ
recent       JJ
final          JJ
foreign      JJ
proper       JJ
valid          JJ
afraid   JJ
honest   JJ|minor
okay   JJ|minor|NN|VB
new   JJ|NN
old   JJ|NN
small   JJ|NN
white   JJ|NN
whole   JJ|NN
red   JJ|NN
blue   JJ|NN
main   JJ|NN
young   JJ|NN
male   JJ|NN
fair   JJ|NN
straight   JJ|NN
deep   JJ|NN
huge   JJ|NN
rich   JJ|NN
French   JJ|NN
cold   JJ|NN
frank   JJ|NN
safe   JJ|NN
strange   JJ|NN
gay   JJ|NN
fat   JJ|NN
grand   JJ|NN
other   JJ|NN
human   JJ|NN
local   JJ|NN
special   JJ|NN
major   JJ|NN
common   JJ|NN
sorry   JJ|NN
simple   JJ|NN
English   JJ|NN
legal   JJ|NN
entire   JJ|NN
serious   JJ|NN
extra   JJ|NN
stupid   JJ|NN
evil   JJ|NN
female   JJ|NN
former   JJ|NN
aware   JJ|NN
German   JJ|NN
secret   JJ|NN
modern   JJ|NN
virtual   JJ|NN
senior   JJ|NN
usual   JJ|NN
super   JJ|NN
civil   JJ|NN
native   JJ|NN
remote   JJ|NN
holy   JJ|NN
minor   JJ|NN
unique   JJ|NN
random   JJ|NN
audio   JJ|NN
such   JJ|NN|minor
due   JJ|NN|minor
dear   JJ|NN|minor
many   JJ|NN|minor
good   JJ|NN|RB
few   JJ|NN|RB
great   JJ|NN|RB
bad   JJ|NN|RB
past   JJ|NN|RB
dead   JJ|NN|RB
dark   JJ|NN|RB
third   JJ|NN|RB
quick   JJ|NN|RB
flat   JJ|NN|RB
plain   JJ|NN|RB
public   JJ|NN|RB
heavy   JJ|NN|RB
solid   JJ|NN|RB
next   JJ|NN|RB|minor
worth   JJ|NN|RB|minor
wrong   JJ|NN|RB|VB
short   JJ|NN|RB|VB
low   JJ|NN|RB|VB
second   JJ|NN|RB|VB
single   JJ|NN|RB|VB
black   JJ|NN|VB
net   JJ|NN|VB
key   JJ|NN|VB
green   JJ|NN|VB
round   JJ|NN|VB
brown   JJ|NN|VB
sick   JJ|NN|VB
total   JJ|NN|VB
average   JJ|NN|VB
last   JJ|NN|VB|RB
free   JJ|NN|VB|RB
top   JJ|NN|VB|RB
fine   JJ|NN|VB|RB
more   JJ|RB
much   JJ|RB
best   JJ|RB
hard   JJ|RB
full   JJ|RB
late   JJ|RB
wild   JJ|RB
soft   JJ|RB
several   JJ|RB
less   JJ|RB|minor
first   JJ|RB|NN
sure   JJ|RB|NN
least   JJ|RB|NN
high   JJ|RB|NN
large   JJ|RB|NN
strong   JJ|RB|NN
wide   JJ|RB|NN
worse   JJ|RB|NN
cheap   JJ|RB|NN
little   JJ|RB|NN
certain   JJ|RB|NN
early   JJ|RB|NN
possible   JJ|RB|NN
long   JJ|RB|NN|VB
worst   JJ|RB|NN|VB
better   JJ|RB|NN|VB
own   JJ|VB
hot   JJ|VB
exact   JJ|VB
cool   JJ|VB|NN
slow   JJ|VB|NN
loose   JJ|VB|NN
correct   JJ|VB|NN
welcome   JJ|VB|NN
open   JJ|VB|NN|RB
direct   JJ|VB|NN|RB
double   JJ|VB|NN|RB
damn   JJ|VB|NN|RB|minor
clear   JJ|VB|RB
clean   JJ|VB|RB
ready   JJ|VB|RB
the   minor
to   minor
of   minor
and   minor
you   minor
for   minor
or   minor
if   minor
but   minor
at   minor
from   minor
my   minor
your   minor
they   minor
an   minor
what   minor
me   minor
we   minor
he   minor
which   minor
when   minor
who   minor
their   minor
his   minor
them   minor
how   minor
than   minor
her   minor
our   minor
she   minor
us   minor
where   minor
its   minor
him   minor
why   minor
since   minor
each   minor
both   minor
via   minor
plus   minor
whose   minor
yours   minor
lo   minor
whom   minor
ah   minor
because   minor
after   minor
against   minor
until   minor
whether   minor
unless   minor
along   minor
across   minor
among   minor
toward   minor
despite   minor
on   minor|JJ
with   minor|JJ
out   minor|JJ
above   minor|JJ|NN
near   minor|JJ|VB|RB
a   minor|NN
I   minor|NN
that   minor|NN
it   minor|NN
this   minor|NN
one   minor|NN
some   minor|NN
these   minor|NN
two   minor|NN
those   minor|NN
yes   minor|NN
three   minor|NN
per   minor|NN
oh   minor|NN
hi   minor|NN
four   minor|NN
five   minor|NN
hey   minor|NN
nor   minor|NN
yeah   minor|NN
six   minor|NN
ten   minor|NN
every   minor|NN
between   minor|NN
below   minor|NN
upon   minor|NN
behind   minor|NN
million   minor|NN
beyond   minor|NN
hello   minor|NN
neither   minor|NN
seven   minor|NN
another   minor|NN
through   minor|NN|JJ
off   minor|NN|JJ|VB
while   minor|NN|VB|JJ
as   minor|RB
by   minor|RB
all   minor|RB
there   minor|RB
no   minor|RB
though   minor|RB
any   minor|RB
around   minor|RB
either   minor|RB
in   minor|RB|JJ
about   minor|RB|JJ
under   minor|RB|JJ
over   minor|RB|NN
up   minor|VB|JJ|RB
like   minor|VB|NN|JJ
way   NN                   
world   NN
year   NN
thing   NN
day   NN
lot   NN
card   NN
life   NN
fact   NN
John   NN
web   NN
word   NN
kind   NN
law   NN
text   NN
week   NN
disk   NN
house   NN
pub   NN
men   NN
night   NN
sale   NN
none   NN
Paul   NN
car   NN
guy   NN
Mike   NN
Id   NN
friend   NN
York   NN
death   NN
street   NN
Steve   NN
month   NN
Al   NN
client   NN
road   NN
mode   NN
James   NN
choice   NN
child   NN
Jim   NN
Tom   NN
art   NN
Dave   NN
health   NN
luck   NN
song   NN
food   NN
Joe   NN
Dan   NN
brain   NN
door   NN
ma   NN
truth   NN
suite   NN
king   NN
blood   NN
Scott   NN
length   NN
church   NN
hour   NN
tech   NN
George   NN
van   NN
smith   NN
Brian   NN
son   NN
path   NN
style   NN
hair   NN
boy   NN
Jeff   NN
peace   NN
girl   NN
feet   NN
wife   NN
cat   NN
ball   NN
mouse   NN
town   NN
sea   NN
speech   NN
Tim   NN
Charles   NN
oil   NN
mouth   NN
hall   NN
crime   NN
tool   NN
script   NN
role   NN
soul   NN
scene   NN
pa   NN
hill   NN
loss   NN
flight   NN
faith   NN
self   NN
June   NN
cache   NN
France   NN
tree   NN
fee   NN
beach   NN
Sam   NN
goal   NN
strength   NN
Meg   NN
gas   NN
Bruce   NN
gene   NN
Matt   NN
league   NN
Max   NN
lab   NN
bell   NN
Greg   NN
clock   NN
beer   NN
Ron   NN
Jones   NN
wood   NN
birth   NN
ray   NN
Ben   NN
system   NN
message   NN
version   NN
address   NN
money   NN
person   NN
area   NN
info   NN
business   NN
David   NN
music   NN
body   NN
women   NN
country   NN
city   NN
Michael   NN
story   NN
office   NN
title   NN
format   NN
Robert   NN
woman   NN
apple   NN
member   NN
record   NN
Richard   NN
letter   NN
window   NN
period   NN
nature   NN
Thomas   NN
method   NN
device   NN
purpose   NN
island   NN
advice   NN
status   NN
moment   NN
event   NN
mother   NN
degree   NN
Europe   NN
spirit   NN
William   NN
volume   NN
engine   NN
album   NN
Japan   NN
Eric   NN
Andrew   NN
culture   NN
Martin   NN
effort   NN
season   NN
April   NN
morning   NN
item   NN
mountain   NN
logic   NN
army   NN
China   NN
Alan   NN
resource   NN
forum   NN
defense   NN
minute   NN
nation   NN
dragon   NN
mission   NN
Jason   NN
menu   NN
India   NN
Daniel   NN
metal   NN
session   NN
Tony   NN
Larry   NN
Stephen   NN
river   NN
region   NN
Gary   NN
planet   NN
lady   NN
traffic   NN
goblin   NN
valley   NN
Mary   NN
liver   NN
guitar   NN
Bible   NN
county   NN
dollar   NN
brother   NN
July   NN
Joseph   NN
Santa   NN
disease   NN
chapter   NN
plenty   NN
manner   NN
article   NN
family   NN
Canada   NN
policy   NN
Germany   NN
Chicago   NN
episode   NN
salary   NN
battery   NN
oracle   NN
animal   NN
fun   NN|JJ
gold   NN|JJ
giant   NN|JJ
firm   NN|JJ
proof   NN|JJ
future   NN|JJ
middle   NN|JJ
topic   NN|JJ
summer   NN|JJ
adult   NN|JJ
domain   NN|JJ
beta   NN|JJ|minor
alpha   NN|JJ|minor
west   NN|JJ|RB
east   NN|JJ|RB
right   NN|JJ|RB|VB
front   NN|JJ|VB
mass   NN|JJ|VB
couple   NN|JJ|VB
god   NN|minor
hell   NN|minor
ad   NN|minor
pro   NN|minor
idea   NN|minor
Jesus   NN|minor
half   NN|minor|VB
north   NN|RB|JJ
south   NN|RB|JJ
time   NN|VB
work   NN|VB
need   NN|VB
list   NN|VB
file   NN|VB
name   NN|VB
group   NN|VB
mail   NN|VB
point   NN|VB
part   NN|VB
line   NN|VB
end   NN|VB
state   NN|VB
case   NN|VB
game   NN|VB
course   NN|VB
place   NN|VB
book   NN|VB
man   NN|VB
power   NN|VB
source   NN|VB
drive   NN|VB
box   NN|VB
love   NN|VB
bit   NN|VB
type   NN|VB
page   NN|VB
change   NN|VB
price   NN|VB
job   NN|VB
hope   NN|VB
site   NN|VB
code   NN|VB
phone   NN|VB
stuff   NN|VB
date   NN|VB
note   NN|VB
mind   NN|VB
test   NN|VB
hand   NN|VB
bid   NN|VB
school   NN|VB
form   NN|VB
bill   NN|VB
space   NN|VB
war   NN|VB
head   NN|VB
team   NN|VB
size   NN|VB
care   NN|VB
mark   NN|VB
cost   NN|VB
light   NN|VB
class   NN|VB
wall   NN|VB
speed   NN|VB
rate   NN|VB
room   NN|VB
mint   NN|VB
deal   NN|VB
voice   NN|VB
star   NN|VB
air   NN|VB
field   NN|VB
cause   NN|VB
sort   NN|VB
board   NN|VB
search   NN|VB
rest   NN|VB
sense   NN|VB
press   NN|VB
face   NN|VB
trade   NN|VB
view   NN|VB
land   NN|VB
force   NN|VB
screen   NN|VB
march   NN|VB
sun   NN|VB
act   NN|VB
age   NN|VB
sex   NN|VB
ram   NN|VB
bob   NN|VB
club   NN|VB
plan   NN|VB
fire   NN|VB
clone   NN|VB
tax   NN|VB
port   NN|VB
print   NN|VB
earth   NN|VB
tape   NN|VB
base   NN|VB
chance   NN|VB
vote   NN|VB
term   NN|VB
range   NN|VB
dog   NN|VB
share   NN|VB
court   NN|VB
thread   NN|VB
claim   NN|VB
store   NN|VB
guide   NN|VB
film   NN|VB
ship   NN|VB
warp   NN|VB
band   NN|VB
ground   NN|VB
doubt   NN|VB
gun   NN|VB
drop   NN|VB
race   NN|VB
park   NN|VB
piece   NN|VB
fall   NN|VB
track   NN|VB
heart   NN|VB
rule   NN|VB
charge   NN|VB
rock   NN|VB
ring   NN|VB
step   NN|VB
boot   NN|VB
stock   NN|VB
con   NN|VB
shot   NN|VB
staff   NN|VB
lack   NN|VB
eye   NN|VB
load   NN|VB
fight   NN|VB
sign   NN|VB
cash   NN|VB
bank   NN|VB
switch   NN|VB
link   NN|VB
lord   NN|VB
ice   NN|VB
edge   NN|VB
fan   NN|VB
drug   NN|VB
shell   NN|VB
pain   NN|VB
risk   NN|VB
bus   NN|VB
floor   NN|VB
chip   NN|VB
match   NN|VB
host   NN|VB
touch   NN|VB
flame   NN|VB
fear   NN|VB
count   NN|VB
quote   NN|VB
doom   NN|VB
walk   NN|VB
string   NN|VB
block   NN|VB
stone   NN|VB
bay   NN|VB
dream   NN|VB
bug   NN|VB
Jack   NN|VB
frame   NN|VB
bar   NN|VB
bed   NN|VB
stage   NN|VB
moon   NN|VB
fish   NN|VB
Ken   NN|VB
bunch   NN|VB
trek   NN|VB
bet   NN|VB
cross   NN|VB
ass   NN|VB
trust   NN|VB
deck   NN|VB
trip   NN|VB
stick   NN|VB
judge   NN|VB
heat   NN|VB
shop   NN|VB
rush   NN|VB
cup   NN|VB
root   NN|VB
mirror   NN|VB
jump   NN|VB
spring   NN|VB
dance   NN|VB
map   NN|VB
hole   NN|VB
spam   NN|VB
plant   NN|VB
patch   NN|VB
toy   NN|VB
skin   NN|VB
brand   NN|VB
pin   NN|VB
kit   NN|VB
scale   NN|VB
ward   NN|VB
slip   NN|VB
cast   NN|VB
foot   NN|VB
tower   NN|VB
horse   NN|VB
wind   NN|VB
ride   NN|VB
train   NN|VB
cock   NN|VB
chain   NN|VB
shape   NN|VB
score   NN|VB
void   NN|VB
pop   NN|VB
bike   NN|VB
grant   NN|VB
coast   NN|VB
people   NN|VB
number   NN|VB
support   NN|VB
order   NN|VB
reason   NN|VB
level   NN|VB
copy   NN|VB
machine   NN|VB
issue   NN|VB
matter   NN|VB
design   NN|VB
answer   NN|VB
water   NN|VB
offer   NN|VB
market   NN|VB
center   NN|VB
return   NN|VB
value   NN|VB
reply   NN|VB
advance   NN|VB
college   NN|VB
release   NN|VB
color   NN|VB
auction   NN|VB
party   NN|VB
result   NN|VB
Peter   NN|VB
model   NN|VB
paper   NN|VB
image   NN|VB
account   NN|VB
figure   NN|VB
table   NN|VB
master   NN|VB
author   NN|VB
wonder   NN|VB
option   NN|VB
trouble   NN|VB
display   NN|VB
credit   NN|VB
police   NN|VB
magic   NN|VB
travel   NN|VB
notice   NN|VB
attack   NN|VB
visit   NN|VB
gopher   NN|VB
damage   NN|VB
comment   NN|VB
cable   NN|VB
attempt   NN|VB
channel   NN|VB
father   NN|VB
finger   NN|VB
supply   NN|VB
baby   NN|VB
feature   NN|VB
approach   NN|VB
kernel   NN|VB
index   NN|VB
doctor   NN|VB
limit   NN|VB
button   NN|VB
budget   NN|VB
target   NN|VB
echo   NN|VB
default   NN|VB
battle   NN|VB
debate   NN|VB
career   NN|VB
surface   NN|VB
exit   NN|VB
sample   NN|VB
campaign   NN|VB
winter   NN|VB
desire   NN|VB
corner   NN|VB
label   NN|VB
license   NN|VB
balance   NN|VB
video   NN|VB
radio   NN|VB
monitor   NN|VB
post   NN|VB|JJ
sound   NN|VB|JJ
side   NN|VB|JJ
waste   NN|VB|JJ
pair   NN|VB|JJ
spread   NN|VB|JJ
split   NN|VB|JJ
bottom   NN|VB|JJ
reserve   NN|VB|JJ
demo   NN|VB|JJ
silver   NN|VB|JJ
alias   NN|VB|JJ
mine   NN|VB|minor
tour   NN|VB|minor
home   NN|VB|RB
not   RB
soon   RB
also   RB
again   RB
always   RB
often   RB
ago   RB
almost   RB
perhaps   RB
indeed   RB
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are   VB
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will   VB|NN
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do   VB|NN
know   VB|NN
think   VB|NN
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may   VB|NN
make   VB|NN
want   VB|NN
go   VB|NN
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say   VB|NN
help   VB|NN
take   VB|NN
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try   VB|NN
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look   VB|NN
call   VB|NN
come   VB|NN
run   VB|NN
put   VB|NN
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tell   VB|NN
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sold   VB|NN
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thought   VB|NN
done   VB|NN
start   VB|NN
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mean   VB|NN
play   VB|NN
pay   VB|NN
heard   VB|NN
buy   VB|NN
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thank   VB|NN
talk   VB|NN
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Don   VB|NN
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left   VB|NN|JJ
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fit   VB|NN|JJ
select   VB|NN|JJ

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 1:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow wordlists!

The slot-and-filler-morphology is definitely of interest! I've seen it before but didn't know a name for it. I can't wait to learn some more about Native American languages - taking a course on the Athabascan family next year if all goes well!

Templatic morphology: I might be able to use this as well, more likely for a separate conlang though - maybe I could introduce the lexical modifiers as nonconcatenative morphemes Idea

Re: your comment about the necessity for an open class of words: I'm going to imagine for now that words that become basic to future word developments thus become essentially root words (likely via reduction in form to single or short bi-syllable). Of course with any lexicon, especially a limiting derivation base lexicon, there is an internal limitation, but ideally the resultant class of words is open.

It makes sense that the medial forms are the smallest class - the initial and final parts of the word are most prominent unless the initial is a prefix.
As for predictability of meaning, mine are more or less transparent, but theoretically with at least enough normality to avoid an entirely bottom-up logical conlang.

I will have a look at Bantu.

And yes, that page worth of response does help, as always eldin Smile

I'll attempt some of the words posted, but I don't think I'll be able to give immediate translations for all of those... Razz

I've also decided that the complex compounds will have (optional, but useful) morpheme boundaries ['] to reduce the apparent length.
Thus I can have German/Ojibwe-looking long words but still have it readible (in the Romanization orthography - still have to start on the logography idea).

I did start working on the derivation a bit more though: examples:

journal entry: voumo'srieśint
newspaper: źimo'srint
natural language processing (phrase): previa'uleśi'tuaski -> Pre'Ule'Tua
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 1:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aert wrote:
Wow wordlists!
I'll attempt some of the words posted, but I don't think I'll be able to give immediate translations for all of those... Razz
You should probably try the one I sent last, first. It has fewer words; they're simpler (I think they're limited to two or fewer English morphemes and two or fewer syllables in English, or something); they're more frequently used in English and so likely their translations are more frequently used in other languages; and there are some of every part-of-speech.
The other lists are longer lists with more complicated words that are used less frequently. But I've organized them into lists by part-of-speech; and ordered each list by frequency of use in English. (Except for the second-to-last list, the ones that are more than one part-of-speech; it's ordered by part-of-speech, which I didn't list). If you finish that short list you have the longer lists to start on whenever you feel like it. You might want to take only the top 100 words off each list first, or something like that.

Aert wrote:
And yes, that page worth of response does help, as always eldin Smile
Thanks! that makes me happy.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 29, 2010 8:07 pm    Post subject: So, how's it coming along? Reply with quote

So, how's it coming along?
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 31, 2010 9:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I think I've decided on a bit of a grammar (I don't think I mentioned that much originally):

SVO but flexible given the semi-case markers
eg: I want to go home
I want go-home
home.TOP I want to go
etc, specifying the most prominent/emphasized thing at the beginning with the topical marker.

Adjectives follow nouns, and as such adjective-like morphemes follow the topical morphemes, eg "airport" is "port of/for air" etc.

There is a morpheme-dividing character (') for clarity, but it isn't used in small words like "come" (önu) even though it could be, according to the rules.
Most commonly it is used between two already-formed words that are combined together in a compound, eg: "book" "written thoughts" = write.OBJ'think.N

I haven't done anything with the logographic orthography, but I'd like to...
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2012 10:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

update: I'm incorporating some of the old notes from this into the oligosynthetic 'logical' language.

I'm talking to my morphology prof about the slot-and-filler / template morphology styles to see what will be going on.

The word building is starting to work out, though I'm just starting.
Combining the 85 case-like roots with the (so far) 39 fundamental roots, there are 100 base roots, and 39 compound roots, and 7 compounds. Once I get more fundamental roots figured out the compounds will come quicker.

Unfortunately only 15 of the cases have translations just yet though. Those will come later...
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 8:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the update, Aert. I look forward to your next one!
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 16, 2016 12:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Extreme necromancy: How's your conlang coming along, Aert?
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