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PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 7:58 pm    Post subject: UDHR Reply with quote

Well... since I couldn't find it looking through the translations, and since I can use it to illustrate the difference between registers in Aalmok, I figured I'd go ahead and do this Universal Declaration of Human Rights thread.

All human beings are born free and equal in dignity and rights. They are endowed with reason and conscience and should act towards one another in a spirit of brotherhood.

Formal register (used with strangers and one's superiors):

.teta aďīs boisais medal mimal xumās myekir..fensais yamā hekuznā;e denaakadzais wodir.
all person-PL being.born-VBZ.3.PL freedom-GEN.SG same-GEN.SG worth-ADV.SG right-ADV.PL endowment-VBZ.3.PL logic-ACC.SG PFV-understanding-ACC.SG and RECP-treatment-JUS-VBZ.3.PL sibling-ADV.PL

Informal register (used with family and close friends):

.teta aďīš boisais medal e mimal xumās e myekir..fensais yamā e hekuznā;e daiyais naakon eipanir mi wodza.
all person-PL being.born-VBZ.3.PL freedom-GEN.SG and same-GEN.SG worth-ADV.SG and right-ADV.PL endowment-VBZ.3.PL logic-ACC.SG and PFV-understanding-ACC.SG and obligation-VBZ.3.PL treatment-VBZ.INF each.other-ADV.PL as sibling-DAT.PL

There is also a superformal register wherein all case endings are written in full and all verb modifications that can be used are necessarily used. Register isn't totally exact, however, there's a progression between each of the aforementioned ones.

Do any of your languages have differing registers? If so, what would the above look like in the different registers
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 6:30 pm    Post subject: Re: UDHR Reply with quote

LingoDingo wrote:
Well... since I couldn't find it looking through the translations, and since I can use it to illustrate the difference between registers in Aalmok, I figured I'd go ahead and do this Universal Declaration of Human Rights thread.

Very good! Thanks for starting this thread. Cool


LingoDingo wrote:
.... (various translations of the UDHR) ....

Looks nice.


LingoDingo wrote:
Do any of your languages have differing registers?

Yes; and genres and dialects, too.

My registers are not honorifics and humilifics; they're simply formal and informal, work and leisure, religious and secular, public and intimate, etc. So there's nothing about talking to a superior or an inferior or an equal.

Genres include folk-tales, children's stories, fatherly advice, commencement addresses, sermons, coaches' pep-talks, etc.


LingoDingo wrote:
If so, what would the above look like in the different registers?

I regret that I cannot answer that yet.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 11:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

eldin raigmore wrote:
My registers are not honorifics and humilifics; they're simply formal and informal, work and leisure, religious and secular, public and intimate, etc. So there's nothing about talking to a superior or an inferior or an equal.

Genres include folk-tales, children's stories, fatherly advice, commencement addresses, sermons, coaches' pep-talks, etc.


Since Aalsen is an intended IAL, I can't control what any of these are gonna look like outside of formality. Genre is largely based on what "sounds good" in any given context. i.e., certain word combinations and phraseology are like to fit a different feeling. Such phraseology is highly subject to change and, as such, the way Aalsen ends up looking in any given situation will be entirely up to the people who speak it.

The rules I set forth only exist for the purpose of stabilization, to give just enough rule to give words stronger and more unique meaning and give people something to work from.

Also, just to say it again, the words in any of the above clauses can me moved around in any way, as long as the words that are grammatically tied to one another remain in the proper position, relative to their referents.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2012 9:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unfortunately the spacing doesn't work here, but here's the morphemic analysis for my conlang 'Śee-ė- Ḱu' (being described in the "Logical Languages" thread under Conlangs).

Original Text
All human beings are born free and equal in dignity and rights. They are endowed with reason and conscience and should act towards one another in a spirit of brotherhood.


PRES 3.OMNI INST BIRTH-V ATTR FREE-COORD-EQUA.A COM VALUE-ATTR-NATURE-A-GEN COORD RIGHT-PL OMNI-HUMAN
(present) (agreement) (at instant) be born free and equal with inherent value and rights all humans
All human beings are born free/unrestricted and equal with inherent value and rights.
таи п́аМ́а-и-Су́-ги-зэа ди Дзи-ъи-Скэ́аби ги аТх́а таиМиду.
X-SAMPA: tai p_>am_?\a.isu:gizea di dzi ?i ske:abi gi atXa taimidu

PRES DUR GIVE-ATTR-PAT 3.OMNI REASON-V-POT-N.STIM COORD KNOW-N-ATTR-MORAL.STIM COORD
(present) (over time) given, bestowed (agreement) the ability to reason and moral knowledge and
They are bestowed reasoning-ability and moral knowledge and
лу́ Ха-и-жи таи Го́ах́ӓду ги Но́-и-Каду ги
lu: XaiZi tai go:aX@du gi no:.ikadu gi

PRES DUR OBLIG.PAT 3.OMNI DO PL.RECIP.N.PAT EQUA.N VIAL.N SIM FAMILY.PAT
(present) (over time) is obliged (agreement) do, act to others the same manner like, as to family.
they are obliged to do to others in the manner as to family.
лу́ ӱажи та Ха́ асножи зӓ ьэ тха Да́.
lu: waZi ta Xa: ?snoZi z@ he tXa da:

Retranslated Text
All human beings are born free and equal with inherent value and rights. They are bestowed reasoning-ability and moral knowledge and they are obliged to do to others in the manner as to family.

таи п́аМ́а-и-Су́-ги-зэа ди Дзи-ъи-Скэ́аби ги аТх́а таиМиду. лу́ Ха-и-жи таи Го́ах́ӓду ги Но́-и-Каду ги лу́ ӱажи та Ха́ асножи зӓ ьэ тха Да́.

X-SAMPA: tai p_>am_?\a.isu:gizea di dzi ?i ske:abi gi atXa taimidu. lu: XaiZi tai go:aX@du gi no:.ikadu gi lu: waZi ta Xa: ?snoZi z@ he tXa da:

Damn, some of those words are hard to parse (especially with a ground-up logical word derivation system)!


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 10:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like it, Aert.
Any chance anyone can post a sound recording?
How about writing it out in their con-script?
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 10:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can put up the orthographic and phonological representations once I have all the root words in the lexicon Razz

I'll try to do a sound file, but don't treat it as definitive given that I probably won't pronounce it exactly as intended (especially with the stress patterning).

EDIT: translation is up. I'll see about trying to pronounce it...
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