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The 35 Words Project: from the Declaration of Independence

 
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eldin raigmore



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 6:36 pm    Post subject: The 35 Words Project: from the Declaration of Independence Reply with quote

Similar to this project.

The 35 Words Project wants to collect as many translations as possible of the following text:

in the Declaration of Independence, Thomas Jefferson wrote:
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.


If you translate that into your language, and then back into English, what gets changed and how and why?

on CONLANG-L, kate rhodes wrote:
I was just pondering how the meaning of that famous sentence would mutate when translated into and then back from my language. ... I thought it would be interesting to see what happens when it passes through yours. Especially those of you with languages based in conworlds with notably different ways of looking at things.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 5:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ɣolhuks:
Tló nimev solti kúvsá kra kóm: mvó jaňev ordhi śalănhi is telňavónăn, al aušliv wencekuks al veslá žókhónăn, al tló aušliv hléntur al dyeltur al svertur šwilye kra kóm.

Literal English translation:
"These words are true for themselves: all people must be given the same things, and they have eternal and divine entitlements, and these entitlements are life and freedom and work towards joy."

Gloss:
tló nim-ev solti kú-v-sá kra kóm: mvó jaň-ev ord-hi śalăn-hi is tel-ňav-ón-ăn, al aušli-v wen-cek-uks al veslá žókh-ón-ăn, al tló aušli-v hlén-tur al dyel-tur al sver-tur šwilye kra kóm.

these word-PL true 3-PL-REF for be: all person-PL thing-DECH same-DECH INF-IMP PASSIVE-give-3-PL, and entitlement-PL NEG-stop-ADJ and divine have-3-PL, and these entitlement-PL live-NOUN and free-NOUN and work-NOUN joy for be.
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eldin raigmore



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 8:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good, Hemicomputer! Thanks.
Can you write it in your conscript yet?
And, can you explain any concultural stuff about how and why it's different from the 18th-century American English version?

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I think you can post either a recording of it or the conscript version of it or even both, on "the Thomas Jefferson Hour"'s 35 Words site; or, if not, maybe the tlHiNaan site has a conlanger's version of it where they're collecting them. Kate Rhodes would know.
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