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Tolkien_Freak
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| kyonides wrote: | | Quote: | June 18-24, 1582 AD: Mitsuhide Akechi is temporarily immobilized by a brief illness, and misses his opportunity to kill an unguarded Oda Nobunaga at Honnou-ji.
Aftermath: Oda Nobunaga is left to finish unifying Japan, Sakoku is never implemented so Japan remains open to foreign influences, Japan slowly converts to Catholicism, Japan becomes a colonial empire. |
...but I'd like to suggest something. Instead of having a completely unified Japan or Nihon, why wouldn't we have a single Empire with 2 factions, the catholic on some part of the land and the buddhist or shintoist on the other? I think this would be more "realistic" since I don't think most of Japan would convert to catholicism no matter how many catholic priests and frays could get there centuries ago. |
At the least, it would either be unstable or have freedom of religion. Odds are one or the other would get oppressed. It's an interesting social condition though. (I know Nobunaga-dono was a supporter of Christianity OTL though he never actually converted, so I would bet that under an Oda Bakufu the Buddhists would be the oppressed ones.)
I can see a Catholic Japan as a strong ally of Spain for most of the 1600s and 1700s.
| Quote: | | Quote: | | EDIT: It seems Gavin Menzies was more wrong than I realized - Wikipedia has nothing about a lightning strike on the Forbidden City. We'd have to somehow change the Hongxi Emperor's mind about the voyages, or put somebody else in there who would allow them. |
Well, I do remember there was a documentary regarding the Palace being burned in flames due to lightning falling down unexpectedly... OK, it was one of the highest places on Beijing or wherever it's located so it's highly probable it happened at least once. They even had to rebuild it, they went far to the north or the south to get the wooden pillars that travelled a lot of km by just floating on the river for days or even a month, I don't remember clearly. |
Hm, maybe. It's nowhere on Wikipedia, but it could just not be there. Someone'll have to do more research. (I can, but if other people want to...)
And it should be the Yongle Emperor ^_^' |
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Tolkien_Freak
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| Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 8:50 pm Post subject: |
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| ...any interest left in this? |
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| Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 9:02 pm Post subject: |
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Yes indeed.
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Hemicomputer
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| Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 4:48 pm Post subject: |
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Yes. Currently I'm waiting for a reply to your followup questions, which should be here soon, luck permitting.
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Tolkien_Freak
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| Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 8:34 pm Post subject: |
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| Good. Looking forward to it. |
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