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What gender are you?
Male
83%
 83%  [ 15 ]
Female
16%
 16%  [ 3 ]
Total Votes : 18

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Tolkien_Freak



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 2:55 am    Post subject: Genders Reply with quote

So... what are the genders of all the various people here?
I have found myself both asking and getting wrong, so maybe we should just have an 'I am X' thread. I know most of the old people, but we've had enough new people recently that maybe this is warranted.

Adding a poll just to see the distribution out of curiosity.

I am male.

(Y'know, we wouldn't have this problem if English didn't have mandatory gender marking on 3sg pronouns.)
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Aeetlrcreejl



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 3:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am male.

And I thought this was about gender in conlangs!
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 3:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aeetlrcreejl wrote:
And I thought this was about gender in conlangs!


Razz Perhaps I should have been more specific!

(Only on a language forum...)
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 3:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Female.
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Tolkien_Freak



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 3:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Who's the third guy to vote male? Wombat?
Perhaps I should take the opportunity to say 'please post'.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 9:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My sex is "male".
But my gender depends on what language you're talking about me in.
I have decided that I'm: "Roundish, squishy, and animate". That's my gender. ("Roundish squishy objects" is, I believe, a gender in Navajo. "Animate" is a gender in a lot of languages.)
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Hemicomputer



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 1:48 am    Post subject: Re: Genders Reply with quote

Tolkien_Freak wrote:

I am male.

Same.
Tolkien_Freak wrote:

(Y'know, we wouldn't have this problem if English didn't have mandatory gender marking on 3sg pronouns.)

What problem? Gender confusion? If so, wouldn't we have more of that problem without gender marking on pronouns?
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 1:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm female toooooo - go us, imdamoose! (^_^) haha.

I have a couple languages which identify between animate and inanimate genders, and I'm working on one which has all kinds of gender identifications and such. I'll have to post it when I get a bit more done with it.

@eldin - When I first joined I have to admit I thought you were female, just because your posts and questions are so detailed and in-depth and stuff, but I did eventually figure out I was wrong. (^_^)
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 8:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am male. ^_^
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 8:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Roundish and squishy LOL Very Happy I could definately in with that title Very Happy
I'm male.
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L'aoroenn'i



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 9:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Female. ^_^
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 5:17 pm    Post subject: Re: Genders Reply with quote

Hemicomputer wrote:
Tolkien_Freak wrote:
(Y'know, we wouldn't have this problem if English didn't have mandatory gender marking on 3sg pronouns.)
What problem? Gender confusion? If so, wouldn't we have more of that problem without gender marking on pronouns?
Gender would be confused more often, but we would not notice the confusion as often, because sometimes it really doesn't matter. Also, as a speech-community, we would have just arbitrarily decided that it didn't matter as much nor as often; so we'd still have it, but we wouldn't call it "a problem".

Does that seem right?

achemel wrote:
@eldin - When I first joined I have to admit I thought you were female, just because your posts and questions are so detailed and in-depth and stuff, but I did eventually figure out I was wrong. (^_^)
Really? I type like a woman?
I remember finding out and being surprised that CeruleanCentaur on Conlang-L is over eighty. I told him "you type like a much younger person".
(Of course we all know you really can't tell.)
Confused Laughing Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 5:47 pm    Post subject: Re: Genders Reply with quote

eldin raigmore wrote:
Hemicomputer wrote:
Tolkien_Freak wrote:
(Y'know, we wouldn't have this problem if English didn't have mandatory gender marking on 3sg pronouns.)
What problem? Gender confusion? If so, wouldn't we have more of that problem without gender marking on pronouns?
Gender would be confused more often, but we would not notice the confusion as often, because sometimes it really doesn't matter. Also, as a speech-community, we would have just arbitrarily decided that it didn't matter as much nor as often; so we'd still have it, but we wouldn't call it "a problem".
Good point.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 6:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Male, no doubt about it.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 5:50 am    Post subject: Re: Genders Reply with quote

eldin wrote:
achemel wrote:
@eldin - When I first joined I have to admit I thought you were female, just because your posts and questions are so detailed and in-depth and stuff, but I did eventually figure out I was wrong. (^_^)
Really? I type like a woman?
I remember finding out and being surprised that CeruleanCentaur on Conlang-L is over eighty. I told him "you type like a much younger person".
(Of course we all know you really can't tell.)
Confused Laughing Rolling Eyes


I wouldn't say you type like a woman; I just personally think (from being drilled by my own mother about how my day was and such for most of my as yet relatively short life) that when someone is, to reuse a word, detailed the way you are and all I have to go on is typed messages, possibly the person is female. I'll blame my mom for that, haha. I hope I didn't offend you. Rolling Eyes Embarassed

And, I liked your series of emoticons, so I kept them in the quote. (^_^)
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 9:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm male.

In my conlang, it doesn't have any grammatical gender in the sense that there are no agreement or mandatory marking, but I have optional inflectional genders: male, female, sentient, non-sentient animate, and inanimate. They could combine, giving e.g. "sentient female" or "non-sentient animate male", and I haven't decided if plants are ever "male" and "female", so if "inanimate" could combine I don't know.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 11:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Masculine and feminine merged to become animate by Early Jinnic.

Lorošae has human gender, not masculine or feminine.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 28, 2009 12:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Caelaurian has masculine, feminine, and general spelling variations of three (maybe four, three and a half?) phonemes, and so sometimes you can only tell the gender of a word by reading it.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 28, 2009 2:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No KM language has grammatical gender - PKM doesn't have it, and it never develops anywhere.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 28, 2009 4:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hemnälg marks feminine, masculine, and neuter as genders with which pretty much everything must be identified, but Tadváradcel and its relative (which hopefully I'll have up tomorrow...today?!) don't bother with it. Hellcat (also hopefully soon to be posted) identifies colors - generally black, reddish, tan, and white (typical coloring of the hellcats themselves) - as well as having distinction between animate/inanimate/dead and a god-gender.
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