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achemel



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 1:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Haha, not quite. Shall I give a hint? /m/ in /sochm/ and /alim/ marks a plural.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 3:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I look for soldiers and find elves in heavy silence?
I look for socks and meet aliens in high sleet?
Any combination of the above?

/m:ite/ for mhite? /mwite/?
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 11:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Those are fantastic guesses and make me wish they were the answer but, unfortunately, they are not. Wink Haha, I laughed out loud at those. You should post 'em on a separate thread as a translation excercise, I would totally do them. Or I could just do that here, I suppose. Razz

As for /mhite/, yeah! [mwite]! :applauding emoticon:
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 14, 2009 2:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So, were any of the new words right? You don't really make it clear...
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 14, 2009 10:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No. Wink Sorry.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 11:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For something to do, if anyone's interested you could take a shot at this:

bëld rá śerdeta corra isiséniðúnih dälawc gyd budunébajawc.

This language is related to ra cel, to not leave you totally in the dark if you want to guess.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 1:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, let's start with some intuitive guesses Smile
How about this:

/b@ld 4a: Se4deta kora isise:niDu:nih d&lawk gyd budune:bajawk/
is any of that correct?
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 2:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kiri wrote:

/b@ld 4a: Se4deta kora isise:niDu:nih d&lawk gyd budune:bajawk/


Great! You got most of it! Bolded parts are correct. There's some variation in some of the sounds so I won't be too nitpicky about them, but you haven't quite got the base phonemes of what's left.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 5:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey, that's great Smile

Let's try this variant:
/p&ld r\a: Ser\teTa kora isise:niDu:nix tAlawk gyt pudune:padZawk/

I have no idea what the umlaut/trema means and what are the confines for the (apparent) allophony in <d>
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 8:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kiri wrote:

/p&ld r\a: Ser\teTa kora isise:niDu:nix tAlawk gyt pudune:padZawk/

I have no idea what the umlaut/trema means and what are the confines for the (apparent) allophony in <d>


I guess the @ didn't show up in bold very well - that was actually right. Or maybe I just forgot to include it in my answer.

The umlauts show a shift in vowel pronunciation but not necessarily rounding.

You got /d/ - it devoices around certain vowels, voiceless consonants, and word-finally.

Think more simply along the lines of /r/. If it's causing confusion, in /corra/ the double r is actually more like [R] than [r]. /h/ and /j/ may be the most difficult.

If anyone's interested, once I finish my current TC in this lang I could put up some info about it.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 12:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was thinking simply, when I guessed [4] for <r> everything else for me is not simple at all Very Happy (I'm Latvian)

I peeked at the ra cel thread. Does <j> stand for [dz\]?

Does <ä> stand for [æ]? (IPA)

As for the <h>, is it dorsal~glottal?
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 1:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kiri wrote:
I was thinking simply, when I guessed [4] for <r> everything else for me is not simple at all Very Happy (I'm Latvian)

I peeked at the ra cel thread. Does <j> stand for [dz\]?

Does <ä> stand for [æ]? (IPA)

As for the <h>, is it dorsal~glottal?


I'll give you /r/... it's [r]. I figured the trill was the other most common pronunciation of /r/ next to [4], but maybe my exposure to natlangs is much more narrow than I thought.

/j/ is not [dz\], though it would be a good guess. It is not an apical or laminal consonant, if that helps.

Yes, /ä/ is [æ]. Good job. Wink Just a couple more!

/h/ is glottal, and can be one of two sounds depending on environment, sort of like /d/.
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