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I thought this might be fun. (^_^) The phrase is a quote from my brother: "I like to spend money like I have it."
Sa thiama am’ palecht yf he-rúlyrh-nat
Also, feel free to translate this into your own lang.
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| Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 2:43 am Post subject: |
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/sa Tiama am?palext yf he'4uly4_0nat/
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/sa Tiama am?paleCt yf he'4uly4hnat/
Or without the /?/.
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Hemicomputer
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| Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 1:32 am Post subject: Re: Guess how to pronounce this |
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My guess is
/%t_hi"ama am "palext Yf "heru:%lYr_0nat/ |
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achemel
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I'm sorry... I still can't read X-SAMPA...  Can I beg of you to put it in IPA for me?
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But of course! No begging needed.
/ˌtʰiˈama am ˈpalext ʏf ˈheruːˌlʏr˳nat/ |
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Thanks! (^_^) I promise I'll learn X-SAMPA sooooon... maybe, haha.
I guess I'll highlight what's right:
/ˌtʰiˈama am ˈpalext ʏf ˈheruːˌlʏr˳nat/
I made it bigger to include the accent marks but they aren't really showing up. 
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| achemel wrote: | | /ˌtʰiˈama am ˈpalext ʏf ˈheruːˌlʏr˳nat/ |
Let me try another guess in IPA this time:
/sa θiˈama amʲˈpaleçt əf ˈherʊˌlərhnat/
And can we have a gloss?
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| achemel wrote: | | /ˌtʰiˈama am ˈpalext ʏf ˈheruːˌlʏr˳nat/ |
/sa ˌθiˈama am ˈpaleʃt yf ˌheˈruɫyɹnat/ |
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achemel
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| Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 5:04 am Post subject: |
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Gloss, yes!
Sa thiama am’ palecht yf he-rúlyrh-nat
he-IDOP be-pleasing-PRES (inf) spend-money-INF money it-DOP have-he-like
This is an older form of grammar which is undergoing severe revisions. (^_^)
Aaand, I'm afraid neither of you have it. Keep trying!  I'm excited to see how you get it! Or if you get tired of it, I've got another one which might possibly be more difficult. Haha.
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What parts of our last guesses were right?
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Just the parts that were right before, in bold. Actually, both of you are getting closer with using [am] but it's not quite it yet. 
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| Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 3:20 pm Post subject: |
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...what would <th> be if it's not /T/ and not /t_h/?
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Something else. (^_^) I came up with the strangest romanization for this language for some reason, so a number of sounds have almost no connection with the spelling. Shall I show you a really ridiculous example?
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Sure!
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Baldash
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| Tolkien_Freak wrote: | | ...what would <th> be if it's not /T/ and not /t_h/? |
/th/.. or any of /D d_h t´ d´ s K tS r_0 4_0 tT) ts) t_> s_> T_>/? Or /xt/?
(IPA to X-SAMPA, CXS) |
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achemel
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Okay, this sentence is kind of long but it's got lots of weird letters I found. (^_^) Actually, the sentence itself is kind of weird as well... yah.
@ Baldash - one of those is definitely right. Thanks for the links! That helps a lot.
Al iasnthe śchloithe kht biylzyrh thanútcheseoisgche ze chwm dal al múś śnhzun’n ghayió natésdúsrhíntcherathpn am’ iyjaremyf
The sometimes suspicious wild cat would have overslept if the good Sword Rider’s gryphon hadn’t planned to wake it.
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...I was kind of expecting some phonetics for the example, but oh well.
I'm guessing <th> is /t´/.
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achemel
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| Tolkien_Freak wrote: | | ...I was kind of expecting some phonetics for the example, but oh well. |
Haha, sorry. Wouldn't that give it away if I did that?
| Tolkien Freak wrote: | | I'm guessing <th> is /t´/. |
No... sorry. (^_^)
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All of the rest of those just seem highly improbable (unless there's some sort of etymological reason for them)... what is it? Can we have a hint?
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I have to admit there's little rhyme or reason for the way I write this language...
Hint: the POA isn't as far back as a retroflex. Does that totally give it away?
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