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Vreleksá The Alurhsa Word for Constructed: Creativity in both scripts and languages
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achemel
Joined: 29 Mar 2009 Posts: 556 Location: up for debate
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Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 1:30 am Post subject: |
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Haha, not quite. Shall I give a hint? /m/ in /sochm/ and /alim/ marks a plural. _________________ I have some small knowledge of:
English, Japanese, Korean, Chinese, Spanish, French
I would like to learn:
Italian, Norwegian, Gaelic
Main conlangs:
ddamachel, tadvaradcel, ra cel, lashel, hemnalg, nomah |
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Hemicomputer
Joined: 04 Feb 2008 Posts: 610 Location: Calgary, Alberta
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Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 3:03 pm Post subject: |
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I look for soldiers and find elves in heavy silence?
I look for socks and meet aliens in high sleet?
Any combination of the above?
/m:ite/ for mhite? /mwite/? _________________ Bakram uso, mi abila, / del us bakrat, dahud bakrita! |
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achemel
Joined: 29 Mar 2009 Posts: 556 Location: up for debate
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Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 11:39 pm Post subject: |
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Those are fantastic guesses and make me wish they were the answer but, unfortunately, they are not. Haha, I laughed out loud at those. You should post 'em on a separate thread as a translation excercise, I would totally do them. Or I could just do that here, I suppose.
As for /mhite/, yeah! [mwite]! :applauding emoticon: _________________ I have some small knowledge of:
English, Japanese, Korean, Chinese, Spanish, French
I would like to learn:
Italian, Norwegian, Gaelic
Main conlangs:
ddamachel, tadvaradcel, ra cel, lashel, hemnalg, nomah |
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Hemicomputer
Joined: 04 Feb 2008 Posts: 610 Location: Calgary, Alberta
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Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2009 2:50 am Post subject: |
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So, were any of the new words right? You don't really make it clear... _________________ Bakram uso, mi abila, / del us bakrat, dahud bakrita! |
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achemel
Joined: 29 Mar 2009 Posts: 556 Location: up for debate
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Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2009 10:21 am Post subject: |
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No. Sorry. _________________ I have some small knowledge of:
English, Japanese, Korean, Chinese, Spanish, French
I would like to learn:
Italian, Norwegian, Gaelic
Main conlangs:
ddamachel, tadvaradcel, ra cel, lashel, hemnalg, nomah |
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achemel
Joined: 29 Mar 2009 Posts: 556 Location: up for debate
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Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 11:14 pm Post subject: |
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For something to do, if anyone's interested you could take a shot at this:
bëld rá śerdeta corra isiséniðúnih dälawc gyd budunébajawc.
This language is related to ra cel, to not leave you totally in the dark if you want to guess. |
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Kiri

Joined: 13 Jun 2009 Posts: 471 Location: Latvia/Italy
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Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 1:57 pm Post subject: |
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Ok, let's start with some intuitive guesses
How about this:
/b@ld 4a: Se4deta kora isise:niDu:nih d&lawk gyd budune:bajawk/
is any of that correct? |
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achemel
Joined: 29 Mar 2009 Posts: 556 Location: up for debate
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Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 2:57 am Post subject: |
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Kiri wrote: |
/b@ld 4a: Se4deta kora isise:niDu:nih d&lawk gyd budune:bajawk/ |
Great! You got most of it! Bolded parts are correct. There's some variation in some of the sounds so I won't be too nitpicky about them, but you haven't quite got the base phonemes of what's left. |
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Kiri

Joined: 13 Jun 2009 Posts: 471 Location: Latvia/Italy
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Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 5:15 pm Post subject: |
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Hey, that's great
Let's try this variant:
/p&ld r\a: Ser\teTa kora isise:niDu:nix tAlawk gyt pudune:padZawk/
I have no idea what the umlaut/trema means and what are the confines for the (apparent) allophony in <d> |
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achemel
Joined: 29 Mar 2009 Posts: 556 Location: up for debate
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Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 8:58 pm Post subject: |
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Kiri wrote: |
/p&ld r\a: Ser\teTa kora isise:niDu:nix tAlawk gyt pudune:padZawk/
I have no idea what the umlaut/trema means and what are the confines for the (apparent) allophony in <d> |
I guess the @ didn't show up in bold very well - that was actually right. Or maybe I just forgot to include it in my answer.
The umlauts show a shift in vowel pronunciation but not necessarily rounding.
You got /d/ - it devoices around certain vowels, voiceless consonants, and word-finally.
Think more simply along the lines of /r/. If it's causing confusion, in /corra/ the double r is actually more like [R] than [r]. /h/ and /j/ may be the most difficult.
If anyone's interested, once I finish my current TC in this lang I could put up some info about it. |
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Kiri

Joined: 13 Jun 2009 Posts: 471 Location: Latvia/Italy
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Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 12:11 pm Post subject: |
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I was thinking simply, when I guessed [4] for <r> everything else for me is not simple at all (I'm Latvian)
I peeked at the ra cel thread. Does <j> stand for [dz\]?
Does <ä> stand for [æ]? (IPA)
As for the <h>, is it dorsal~glottal? |
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achemel
Joined: 29 Mar 2009 Posts: 556 Location: up for debate
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Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 1:08 am Post subject: |
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Kiri wrote: | I was thinking simply, when I guessed [4] for <r> everything else for me is not simple at all (I'm Latvian)
I peeked at the ra cel thread. Does <j> stand for [dz\]?
Does <ä> stand for [æ]? (IPA)
As for the <h>, is it dorsal~glottal? |
I'll give you /r/... it's [r]. I figured the trill was the other most common pronunciation of /r/ next to [4], but maybe my exposure to natlangs is much more narrow than I thought.
/j/ is not [dz\], though it would be a good guess. It is not an apical or laminal consonant, if that helps.
Yes, /ä/ is [æ]. Good job. Just a couple more!
/h/ is glottal, and can be one of two sounds depending on environment, sort of like /d/. |
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