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Aert



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 11:51 pm    Post subject: Quotes Reply with quote

Post and translate any and all quotations - the question is, how do the semantics translate, especially in incomplete references?

I'll post some when I can,

Good luck!
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 1:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

L'etat c'est moi! -Louis XIV

I actually don't know how to translate this one yet. It depends on if you translate it as "I am the state" or "The state, it is me!"

Have at it!

I shall return! ...to translate
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 3:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am the state:
Karemi .
kingdom-COP 1.STAT

The state - it is me:
Kara - .
kingdom - 1-COP

'Words have the power to both destroy and heal. When words are both true and kind, they can change our world.' - The Buddha
Akelise lhmaliseyu mri ryulhyo. Ryulhyo rene nareyu nama, revaluze ya.
destroy-NOM-DESCGEN.ATT heal-NOM-DESCGEN.ATT-and ability-POSSGEN word-GENERAL.STAT. word-GENERAL.STAT true-ATT kind-ATT-and time-TEMPLOC, change-POT world.STAT.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 4:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

G tcalțtwr kl.
the ruler-noun be-1

Navrv lyekxt al lsrok. Geog navrv clsu al tvn km, om tanevci lkelsnun.
word-pl CAP-destroy and CAP-heal. when word-pl kind and true be, land we.incl-GEN CAP-change-3-pl

"A little paranoia is a mood propeller" --Don Van Vliet
(translation soon)
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Aert



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 4:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's some quotes about war (taken from Call of Duty 3)

Quote:
"In the eyes of empire builders men are not men but instruments."
-Napolean Bonaparte

"The world is adangerous place, not because of those who do evil, but because of those who look on and do nothing."
-Albert Einstein

"Wars are poor chisels for carving our peaceful tomorrows."
-Martin Luther King Jr.

"War is eternity jammed into frantic minutes that will fill a lifetime with dreams and nightmares."
-John Cory

"What a cruel thing is war... to fill our hearts with hatred instead of love for our neighbors, and to devastate the fair face of this beautiful world."
-General Robert E. Lee

"There is neither rank nor station nor prerogative in the republic of the grave."
-John James Ingalls

"If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may know peace."
Thomas Paine


I'll post some translations of these soon.

@Killerken: I guess 'moi' can't be translated as 'mine' here? I guess it depends on how King Lous XIV saw himself vs his country Wink
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Aert



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 7:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I guess I forgot this one:

Quote:
An eye for an eye makes us all blind
-Gandhi


"Blm Ronnų sid Ronnų bdyoaldvr feś"
To exchange eye.IND for eye.IND make-blind everyone

Quote:
"If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may know peace."
Thomas Paine


"Jśe bcenj zhl vhl Helv, hiltl* I'vhl hoitGlśyvst, isc Śinvst fhin vlin"
If there-is.FUT must exist problems, allow.COND it to exist during-day.1SG.GEN, that child.1SG.GEN know.COND peace.

(I might change this one, I don't know if the two 'be/exist' verbs work quite this way...)
* I could also add the emphasizer suffix to this, so it would be more like "please, let it be in my day (as opposed to what I'm about to say)" It would be "hiltlmaas"

And one from my Facebook nation (I figured it needed a motto Wink ):

Quote:
"Existence is existence as change, under a realm of possibility"
-me


"Vhl geFlin, dz Anyryenistų"
Existence be.cond-(existence as change)*, under possiblity-realm.GEN.IND

* yes, my conlang has a verb for "existence as change" Very Happy It's quite useful when talking about people, animals, nature, or whatever - anything animate, as it will (certainly) change during the course of it's lifetime.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 3:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like this one best:
"The world is adangerous place, not because of those who do evil, but because of those who look on and do nothing."
-Albert Einstein

Uljue mi ya, ula yare elu ekar, yale zelju yareyu elu ekar.
dangerous-ATT place-COP world.STAT, evil.STAT do-ATT person exist-because-NEG, look-ATT action-NULL.STAT do-ATT-and person exist-because-but.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 6:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Two versions of philosophy from dogs:

1. If it falls on the floor, eat it. If it turns out not to be food, you can always throw it up later.

2. If you can't eat it, and you can't f**k it, well, p**s on it.


edited second one so T_F can read it on his family computer.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 7:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sal g hemel iyt jun, k les gljac. Sal maglu enkmn, k t lxokic.
Sal g hemel iyt ju-n, k le-s glj-ac. Sal maglu en-km-n, k t- l-xoki-c.
if the floor to go-3, 3 PRES-IMP eat-2. if food NEG-be-3, 3 FUT-ADV CAP-regurgitate-2

Sal k enlgljac, al k dal enlkxgac, uuu, k iyt les coloc.
Sal k en-l-glj-ac, al k dal en-l-kxg-ac, uuu, k iyt le-s colo-c.
if 3 NEG-CAP-eat-2, and 3 with NEG-CAP-sex.act-2, pausing.interjection, 3 towards PRES-IMP pee-2.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 8:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

eldin raigmore wrote:
Two versions of philosophy from dogs:

1. If it falls on the floor, eat it. If it turns out not to be food, you can always throw it up later.

2. If you can't eat it, and you can't f**k it, well, p**s on it.


That is AMAZING. (^_^)

I haven't got any translations yet except for the first two below, but I wanted to post some quotes I like, which happen to be from various cracked.com articles, various stories and manga I've read, and my brother. I failed to mark where many of them are from, though, so I can't tell you who I'm quoting. Confused

Quote:
Any time you think some other language is strange, remember that yours is just as strange, you're just used to it.
- Linguistic Mystic


Nhrhi flyn manth sl h certhl hysr ylthem, smv manth nf th hysr dvyhy ylthem, norh hysr eivnrch .
/anytime think-PRES you that(conj.) some other language be-PRES strange, remember-IMP-you that you-GEN one(nominal) be-PRES equal-ly strange, but be-PRES accustomed(to)it you/

Quote:
What would you do with a thousand dollars? How about a million? Its just enough to fill your tank with gas, or send your mother-in-law on a nice vacation to Antarctica?


Ssor ghim gly mlut ldv? Ths, ob ldv? Hysr cth onhtha be fasbes nf clỳg gly umhth, els be hsthies nf ba-l-binnagh bi rssl lamhth sdvec ntctic?

Quote:
What if the hokey pokey IS what its all about?

Im an 85-year old nose, with legs.
Wow! 8 and 5 added together make 13! They say thats a really unlucky number!
Tell me about it.

And were off, like a herd of turtles!!

"Compared with Earth, with its gleaming blue seas, white clouds and ice caps, red deserts, and green jungles, Mercury looks dead and Venus resembles medieval visions of hell." - my friend's astronomy book

The music sounds like a swarm of killer bees playing the sitar in an empty grain silo.

Wait a minute. Who else makes up words with abandon? What other orgasmtastic group of blogsmiths dares to so refunkify the English lizzanguage? Why, could it beYe Gods, look out! Theres a Chompapottamus headed straight for you!

Hes troubled by having so many things troubling him

In Asia you are able to ride the turtle you saved and party all night with many beautiful women.

Orcot: Is he dead?! Did you kill him, Count?!?!
Count: Actually, I made him tea.

Your kingdom in exchange for a rock. I think thats a reasonable trade.

You dont often hear the president say something like I think this economy is going to tank, big time, for about a year and a half

Its a winner-take-all match for enthusiastic men in loincloths!

I like to spend money like I have it - my brother

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Aert



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 7:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
"War is the business of barbarians" -Napoleon"


Cothol geWindhdri
War be(condition)-[uncivilized person].PL-business

or

Cothol g'rino Windhdst
War be(condition)-business.DEF [uncivilized person].PL.GEN.DEF
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 8:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

@Achemel: Regarding your quote of Eldin's post, could you please censor the quote as Eldin has done to the original? It seems the dirty words are blocking T_F from viewing this thread. Thanks!
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 5:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How do I censor something? Sorry I've not asked sooner - I've been working a lot this week.

Eeeeeeedit:
And I've just looked like a smart person at what eldin did and I'll do the same immediately. (^_^)
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 5:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you very much, it's now visible ^_^
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 5:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ahh, it worked! Good! Sorry about that. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 6:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
Any time you think some other language is strange, remember that yours is just as strange, you're just used to it.


Melhurule eluryukare ljak ryu ma verae neljna, keveratje melhe eluryu ljak teme ryu, ma ka verae voretji ki.
Me-lhu-rur-e eluryu-kare ljak ryu ma vera-e ne-lj-na, ke-verat-(y)e me-lhe eluryu ljak te-me ryu, ma ka vera-e voret-i ki.
you-DESCGEN-NEG-ATT language-SOME[STAT] weird QUOT[STAT] you[STAT] think-ATT time-UNIV-TEMPLOC, re-think-IMP you-DESCGEN-ATT language[STAT] weird degree-COMP QUOT[STAT], you[STAT] thing[STAT] understand-ATT stand-NOM thing[COP].

'At all times when you think that some language that isn't yours is weird, remember that yours is strange to the same degree, it's the one fact that you understand it.'

Emitare uses 'standing' to mean 'fact', in this case in a similar construction to English's 'it's that ...' or Japanese's '... n(o) da'.

I sat there for five minutes trying to figure out how to say 'just' or 'only', I finally settled on 'the one fact'.

EDIT: stupid mistakes fixed
EDIT2: more stupid mistakes (GAH)

Quote:
"War is the business of barbarians" -Napoleon


Uverae eluse zji ljata.
u-vera-e elu-lje zji ljata.
un-think-ATT person-DESCGEN[ATT] action[COP] war[STAT]

'War is the action of those who do not think.'
'Uverae elu' is pretty much the closest translation of 'barbarian'.

EDIT: word order fix (I'm not doin' well today...)


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 7:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like your word for "war."
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 7:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks ^_^
I was originally trying to come up with something based off the word for 'battle' or 'fight', tasja, but those were all too long (karemitasja, 'country-fight', just didn't work.)
I have an overderivation problem - whenever I need a new word, I always try hard to come up with ways to derive it from extant words when I really don't need to.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 8:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I try to do that to an extent, but only as much as is necessary, to preserve variety and variation of sound etc. Of course the sounds will be changed, especially due to letters etc surrounding the core derivative, but I prefer to have less of a substantial connection and more an implied one.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 8:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm using this to see, how does the "old" and "new" disagreement sentence pattern works Very Happy

"The world is adangerous place, not because of those who do evil, but because of those who look on and do nothing."
-Albert Einstein

nn Mūna an hrēdan Plassa perētiam, ponbanuam Animas Hadru de, no pon Animas montre, o ekki debanuam.

the land a dangareous place is-yes, because-not beings evil do, but because beings look, and something do-not.

OR

nn Mūna an hrēdan Plassa pere, ba pon Animas Hadru de, no pon Animas montre, o ekki ba de.

the land a dangerous place is, not because beings evil do, but because beings look, and something not do.

Somehow I like the "old" style better (although it's fresh and new Very Happy ). I don't really think any actual gloss is needed in here Smile
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