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TC: The Road Not Taken by Robert Frost
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achemel



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 7:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think I've got it in Hemnalg and Tadvaradcel, but I'm still working on ra cel - working out kinks in the subordinate clauses and such. I have to go to work in about an hour, but if I get it done I'll add a link to the script form of the Tadvaradcel translation.

Hemnlg hrostal hul
Take-PAST-NEG road

Edit: First example of Halm! Just the title, though... I'll put it all up sometime soon! Very Happy http://s627.photobucket.com/albums/tt351/achemel/?action=view&current=halm1.jpg

By hular bysittamel niri gjlosjc
Yr jrh skch blurem iskic
Yr sorgy al mibs, lang paric ttalutal
Yr bilural diral i nong i sk
Guljyc gylic prdegel flje ttjgc


Two-road-pl. diverge-(they)PAST yellow wood-in
And sorry can-(I)-PAST-NEG travel-D both-on
And be-D one-traveler, long-time stood-(I)-PAST
And look-(I)PAST one-along as far as can-(I)-PAST
Place-to which-at bend(it)-PAST tall grass-in

Pytt hlurostal itgic, rabng sarad
Yr rhang lhst lorsaa mlleg
Sfy sl obja yr rutgst nemerh
Ras sm coroc grius rhich
Nedemerheel srykc ana kl nerlech


Then take(I)-PAST other-(on), just as fair
And have(it)-CONT perhaps better claim
Because be-(it)-PAST grassy and want-(it)-CONT wear
Though that-matter-on/about passing(n) there
Wear-(it)PAST-PAST they-on really about same

Yr isk sm rhilit l skorov stoderbettel
Pristelc sj apsa denglfeel plarasic
, nuludugal dir itgne einc!
Jej miluttng dej hul demn hulnaj
Llubungal p skyjah on mlumitt


And both that-morning equally lie(they)-PAST
Leaf-pl.-in no step tread-(it)-PAST-PAST blackness-into
Oh, keep(I)-PAST the first another day-for!
Yet know(I)-CONT how way lead(it)-PRES way-to
Doubt(I)-PAST if can(I)-FUT-DUB ever return(I)-D

Sorja muluvnst lyka vistal
Ttemj parar yr parar hvsj
By hular bysittamel gjlosjc yr lus
Hlurostal nule bremel diral
Yr mor ndesteel alle tik


Be-(I)-FUT tell-CONT this sigh-with
Somewhere age-pl. and age-pl. hence (it literally says "hence")
Two-road-pl. diverge-(they)-PAST wood-in and I
Take(I)-PAST the one less travel(PAST)-by
And that(dem.n.) make(it)-PAST-PAST whole difference


Tadvradcel

Ss fsathyn mhssh

Su mhssh histhyn ms llys blot
Ysth hsehd ss lyrfwn be thfsas l su
Ysth hysres th thfsse, l nheth fissyn es
Ysth dvosthwn mwr th s sl s lyrwn es
Sdvec cs rhthwn ch ms csimis


No-take-PAST road
Two road-pl. split-PASt in yellow wood,
And sorry neg-can-PAST travel on-both
And be one traveler, long (time) stand-PAST I
And look-PAST along one as far as can-PAST I
Toward where/place bend-PAST it in undergrowth

Ytha fsathyn h, s t brhus
Ysth rwlath brefth lam crha
Lef hysryn thlsb ysth hysryn hssthreth thassla
No fde hera
Sslyvyn ch sen su l vi ml t


Then take-PAST the other, as same fair
And have-CONT maybe better claim
Because be-PAST grassy and need-PASTCONT wear
Although the path there
Wear-PAST it they truly about the same

Ysth su manth ssth t lsniyn
Ms ss-cdvu be ssts thilfwn i
U, horhsyn es ths be hyr snv!
Norh cireth es ssor fde asth ch sdvec fde
Ushsyn es no ssm-hussl un es esv


And bother that morning same lie-PAST
In black tread-PAST no step leaf-pl.
Oh, keep-PAST I first for another day!
But know-CONT how path lead-PRES it to path
Doubt-PAST I if should-come-back I ever

Hysath neath es hwy gly-hh
Sss rhagh ssl thom
Su mhssh histhyn ms blot ysth es
Fsathyn es th gifsathyn
Ysth hysryn ch sassgha


Tell-FUT-PASS I this with sigh
Somewhere eons from now
Two road-pl. split-PAST in wood and I
Take-PAST I one less-travel-PAST-adj.
And that (n.) make-PAST the difference

Edit: link for Tadvaradcel: http://s627.photobucket.com/albums/tt351/achemel/?action=view&current=IMG_2576.jpg
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ddamachel, tadvaradcel, ra cel, lashel, hemnalg, nomah


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Aert



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 1:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
Do you mean this bit: "Look to road in grass-in bend-possesive place"? Hmmm, the possesive there is more like "of". So it's "Look to road in grass-in bend-of place".... I have no idea how to explain it. o_O


Wow - I was just thinking about something exactly like this for the new lang I'm working on! So I know what you mean :S

achemel: Thanks for your translations too! I haven't seen a lot of Scandinavian-looking conlangs.[/code]
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 10:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very Happy Glad to contribute. I'd do Ualaxx as well, but it doesn't have any numbers...
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I would like to learn:
Italian, Norwegian, Gaelic
Main conlangs:
ddamachel, tadvaradcel, ra cel, lashel, hemnalg, nomah
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Kiri



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Location: Latvia/Italy

PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 10:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

achemel wrote:
Very Happy Glad to contribute. I'd do Ualaxx as well, but it doesn't have any numbers...


How do you pull that off, I wonder Smile
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 11:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aert wrote:
Quote:
Do you mean this bit: "Look to road in grass-in bend-possesive place"? Hmmm, the possesive there is more like "of". So it's "Look to road in grass-in bend-of place".... I have no idea how to explain it. o_O


Wow - I was just thinking about something exactly like this for the new lang I'm working on! So I know what you mean :S

achemel: Thanks for your translations too! I haven't seen a lot of Scandinavian-looking conlangs.[/code]


Oh I see. ^_^ Hmmm, do you have any idea of how to describe it? o_O Would it be something like a gerund?
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Aert



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 6:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it would be closer to the genitive than the possessive (if that's possible - my langs don't distinguish it but I gloss them separately depending on context/word order etc).

Maybe a variation on the sentence would be
Quote:
"and looked down one as far as I could / to where it bent in the undergrowth"

"and to a great distance I look(ed), look(ed) to the [road among the grass OR grassy road], to the place of bending"

so yeah, I can see where you`re coming from with the gerund. Maybe here the use of (insert name here) can be glossed as NOUN.GEN VERB.GER?
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 12:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Amazing crop circles Very Happy
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