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PostPosted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 3:10 am    Post subject: Naxmus Reply with quote

I'm changing this thread to instead hold the script for Naxmus, the language of the Naxms people from whom the Holxs descended.
The script:


Here's some stuff on the language:

The only real differences between Holxs and it's ancestor, Naxmus, are phonology and some grammar.
Naxmus Phonology/Romanization:

/D T x X R m l j s k n S t K q G\ Z 4/ <d th c x h m l j s k n sh t ll q g z r>

/{ A o i @ u E eI/ <a o i u e >

And s is never /ks/, so it's pronounced /n{Xm@s/

Grammatical Differences:
Tenses are synthesized to the verb, person is isolated. Holxs is the other way around.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 4:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks like it's based off of Devenagari.

Samples please Very Happy.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 5:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, I've been told that a lot. I actually hadn't seen much Devanagari when I made this, but i thought my original was too similar to Latin (it was nearly a cipher) so I reformatted the symbols. I knew Devanagari had the "symbols on a line" element, so I borrowed that. The actual letter forms are 100% original.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 7:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like how it is punctuated with both starts and ends of punctuation. Why are there two types of exclamation symbols?
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 9:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ooh, I really like that script, it reminds me of some of mine. ^_^ Could you show us more samples?
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 12:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

@ mr.toast2: One type of exclamation mark (marked as "exclamation 1") is for expressing extreme emotion, the other (exclamation 2) is to indicate important information or a forceful tone.

@ StrangeMagic: I'll get some samples pronto.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 2:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

*Nearly has a heart attack* That......OMG!.....Boingy..... Mr. Green

PREEEEEEEEEEEEEETTY SCRIPTY! YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY!

Do you even realize what you just did? You made me happy! YAAAAAAAAAAAAAY! A BOINGY! Mr. Green


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 6:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Serali: i take it that means you like the script. Very Happy

Also, a small sample.



I, being left-handed, would write the script L-to-R, but the right-handed would write this R-to-L, which is more common.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 7:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow! That is really really beautiful! I love it.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 7:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hemicomputer wrote:
I figured it was about time I post the script for my main conlang of Gholkhux.
I like it a lot, and you've avoided most or all of the mistakes we commonly make the first time we post a script here.
langover94 wrote:
Looks like it's based off of Devenagari.
That was my thought too. Well, that and Tengwar.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 7:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hemicomputer wrote:
I, being left-handed, would write the script L-to-R, but the right-handed would write this R-to-L, which is more common.
That's weird.
I typed a lot more but the software logged me out before I submitted it.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 2:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hemicomputer wrote:
Serali: i take it that means you like the script. Very Happy

Also, a small sample.



I, being left-handed, would write the script L-to-R, but the right-handed would write this R-to-L, which is more common.


OOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMMMMMGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG! Mr. Green Also I would like to see your other scripts but you set your photobucket album with them in it to private. I'd like to see them.

I love it!


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 3:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why is it written L-R for left handed people?
And R-L for righthanded people?

Personally, being right-handed, I would rather write it L-R, for practical reasons as then I wouldn't be smudging it.

Although if there is a particular reason, that would make sense too.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 5:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

@ mr.toast2: It has to do with the way the script was originally written. The non-dominant hand would draw lines, while the dominant made the markings. When the script evolved to use one hand, people were so used to it that they kept the writing directions the same. Regarding the smudge issues, many natural languages are written R-to-L and it is not an issue. Gholkhux typically uses a very dark sort of pencil anyways.

@ Serali: There's nothing to see on my photobucket, all the scripts currently on there I have already posted to Vreleks.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 12:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh ok. Just wondering.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 7:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yay, I can finally see it!

Looks good, a lot like Devanagari.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 10:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hemicomputer wrote:
@ mr.toast2: It has to do with the way the script was originally written. The non-dominant hand would draw lines, while the dominant made the markings. When the script evolved to use one hand, people were so used to it that they kept the writing directions the same. Regarding the smudge issues, many natural languages are written R-to-L and it is not an issue. Gholkhux typically uses a very dark sort of pencil anyways.


I see what you mean, I was just wondering why it would be different for left-handed or right-handed people.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 6:13 pm    Post subject: Multipost required. Reply with quote

Hemicomputer wrote:
@ mr.toast2: It has to do with the way the script was originally written. The non-dominant hand would draw lines, while the dominant made the markings. When the script evolved to use one hand, people were so used to it that they kept the writing directions the same. Regarding the smudge issues, many natural languages are written R-to-L and it is not an issue. Gholkhux typically uses a very dark sort of pencil anyways.
The software logged me out and lost my work again. So I'm going to respond in several different posts. This is a multi-post, I know; it's the only way I can get this in.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 6:16 pm    Post subject: How do readers tell which writing direction is meant? Reply with quote

Hemicomputer wrote:
@ mr.toast2: It has to do with the way the script was originally written. The non-dominant hand would draw lines, while the dominant made the markings. When the script evolved to use one hand, people were so used to it that they kept the writing directions the same. Regarding the smudge issues, many natural languages are written R-to-L and it is not an issue. Gholkhux typically uses a very dark sort of pencil anyways.
How do readers tell which writing direction is meant?
It can be important.
There are many examples of English and other languages' word-pairs which are distinguished only by order; the first, alphabetically, is probably "bad" vs "dab".
There are also examples of English and other languages' sentences which are distinguished only by order; for instance "Jack killed Jill" vs "Jill killed Jack".
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 6:19 pm    Post subject: How natscripts show which writing-direction they're using. Reply with quote

Hemicomputer wrote:
@ mr.toast2: It has to do with the way the script was originally written. The non-dominant hand would draw lines, while the dominant made the markings. When the script evolved to use one hand, people were so used to it that they kept the writing directions the same. Regarding the smudge issues, many natural languages are written R-to-L and it is not an issue. Gholkhux typically uses a very dark sort of pencil anyways.
Various natscripts may use various means to show which writing-direction was used, if they allow more than one.
For instance, hieroglyphs, which may consist totallly or partially of human figures, may have all the human figures face the start of the line.
Or maybe, if there are both lower-case and upper-case, many words [edit]have their first letter[/edit] capitalized (e.g. all nouns, plus the first word of any sentence), and the end of the sentence is indicated (for instance by a period or other punctuation mark). [edit]Also, some letters may have initial forms for use as the first letter of a word, different from the form used as a non-first letter; and/or some letters may have final forms for use as the last letter of a word, different from the form used as a non-last letter.[/edit]
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