Vreleksá

imbecilica · Joined: 09 Jan 2008 Posts: 74

Literally means Tonal language:

I'm working towards a new conlang (like I don't have enough already), anyways this will be quite interesting to me because it will be completely tonal.

At the moment, I'm only thinking about the tones first, what d'ya think?

- The tones are indicated after that vowel. And these are the symbols for the tones:

' - rising tone.

~ - falling-rising above normal tone.

` - falling tone.

: - falling-rising back to normal tone.

imbecilica · Joined: 09 Jan 2008 Posts: 74

Normal tone - a

Rising tone - á

Falling tone - à

Falling-rising to normal tone - ä

Falling-rising above normal tone - ã

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Anyways here's an example:

Hello, My name is Im..
Hâ, Sen oi Im..
[Hello, Name me Im..]

Basically you don't need to use 'am/is' in this case. And possession word goes after unlike in English eg. (my dog --> dog me)

How old is your friend?
Süi gahn y rà nà?
[Age friend you is (interrogative question)]
'ah' is pronounced 'ar'.
'y' is pronounced 'ee'.

imbecilica · Joined: 09 Jan 2008 Posts: 74

I have decided to make it a Object Subject Verb (OSV) conlang.

For example:

I love you
Y oi pàhng
[You-I-love]
[iː oɪ paŋ] --> aussie IPA

I study French
Fäht-yahn oi hök
[France-language I study)
[faːɹt jaːɹn oɪ hok]

I am new here
Tìn oi sãhng
[Here i new]
[tɪən oɪ saːŋ]

Do you like to play pc?
Pisi y pahng wäht nà?
[Pc you like play (interrogative)]
[piːsiː iː paŋ waːt na]

Do you like my conlang?
Yahn zir dào oi y pahng nà?
[Language by-one's self create me you like (interrogative)]
[ja:n zɪəɹ dæɔ oɪ iː paŋ na]

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- There is no distinction between singular and plurals.
eg. car, cars = che, che
...However, you can distinguish them if you use a classifier
eg. a car, cars = pït che, che (pɪət)
pït is the classifer for transport.

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- Articles are replaced by classifiers
eg. the car = pït che [classifier for transport car]
- Referral of an object is much like English; but in this conlang, it goes after the object.
eg. this car, that car = che fì, che fàh

- Much of the words are formed by conpounding.
eg. short sighted - tìrùn-gãhm [sight-short]

imbecilica · Joined: 09 Jan 2008 Posts: 74

Hello, my name is Im. I am Vietnamese but live in Australia. I am a student at Aranmore Catholic College in Western Australia. I love this city.

Hâ, sen oi Im. Oi Yuët-nòn kàra ìm Ostraylia oi sòng. Ìm Jyun-hök-yòn Katolik Aranmo oi hök-sèm. Fä fìn oi pahng.

Hello, name me Im. I Viet-person but in Australia I live, At middle-learning-school Catholic Aranmore I study-(profession). City this I like.

Haː , sen oɪ Im. oɪ jʉːet - non ka:ræ im Ostɹæɪli:a oɪ soŋ. Im dʒʊn - hok - dʒon Ka:tolik æɹænmo oɪ hok sem. fa Fɪən oɪ pa:ŋ

Mr. Green

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Are you my friend or my enemy?
Pähng oi sèi chún oi y rà nà?
[Friend me or enemy me you are (interrogative)?]
[Pa:ŋ oɪ sæɪ tʃʊn oɪ i ra na?]

Are you American or English?
Mï-nòn sèi In-nòn y rà nà? --> dang that umlaut looking one on Mĩ is a tilde ~
[America-person or England-person you are (interrogative)?]
[Mĩ - non sæɪ in - non i ra na?]

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Hà, Chisoh - hello
Dãsoh - bye
gàhm gah - thank you

imbecilica · Joined: 09 Jan 2008 Posts: 74

I am a student at Aranmore Catholic College
Ìm Jyun-hök-yòn Katolik Aranmo oi hök-sèm
[At college Catholic Aranmore I am a student]

If you wanted to say:

--> I study English at Aranmore Catholic College
--> Ìm Jyun-hök-yòn Katolik Aranmo oi In-yahn hök

As Ìm means 'in' or 'at', basically you can read it as 'at' Jyun-hök-yòn. Since the subject 'oi' (I) is placed directly after, if you were to study something at the Jyun-hök-yòn, that would go firect after the subject and before the verb. Mr. Green

Adding this '-sèm' to the end of a verb means the word becomes an occupation. So to sum up:

NB: If we separated it into two parts with a comma:

--> Ìm Jyun-hök-yòn Katolik Aranmo, oi In-yahn hök
[At college Catholic Aranmore, I English study]

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I study at Aranmore Catholic College, aka.
Ìm Jyun-hök-yòn Katolik Aranmo oi hök *aka. without the -sèm'

We'll forget about the -sèm part, because study as a verb is just hök.

Then we will add a word: "ru" which goes just after 'Aranmo',
Ìm Jyun-hök-yòn Katolik Aranmo ru oi hök
[At college Catholic Aranmore (1.) I study]

1. If this word 'ru' is added between the subject/object, then it means everything before the 'ru' is the object and the word directly after 'ru' is the subject, yah? Mr. Green

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Further examples:

We'll start with a simple one and build up:

"I study"
Oi hök
[I study]

"I study at a college"
Ìm Jyun-hök-yòn oi hök
[At college I study]

"I study at a college in England"
Ìm In-gók, ìm Jyun-hök-yòn oi hök
[In England-country, at college I study]

"I study French at a college in England"
Ìm In-gók, ìm Jyun-hök-yòn Fäht-yahn oi hök
[In England-country, at college France-language I study]

"I study French at a big college in England"
Ìm In-gók, ìm Jyun-hök-yòn bâk rà Fäht-yahn oi hök
[In England-country, at college big it's France-language I study]

NB: In the last one, to confuse between At a college I study big French you add the special verb rà which typically means 'is'.

Thus, it becomes:
Ìm In-gók, ìm Jyun-hök-yòn bâk rà Fäht-yahn oi hök
(In England, at big college it's French I study)

imbecilica · Joined: 09 Jan 2008 Posts: 74

I was thinking of well..using a simplified system involving symbols like:

I study French in Australia.
Ìm U-gók rà Fäht-yahn oi hök

This can be shown as:
I`m U-go'k ra` fa:ht-yahn oi ho:k

However, I do not see why I would need to get a better system to show tones. Take a look at Vietnamese. To back this up, it's easier to read tones if they're marked on the letters. I just find it easier to read. You may not find it easy maybe because you haven't seen Vietnamese or Mandarin pinyin but yeah, I find it easier to have it this way. Mr. Green

As opposed to something like:

a - a
á - ah
à - aa
ä - aah
à - ar
â - ahr

Something like that cannot be done, since 'a' 'ah' and 'ar' and completely different sounds.

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I like to eat fish more than meat.
Hèn píu rà yü oi pahng cháh
[Rather-than meat is fish I like eat]

1. There is 2 words for eat, i prefer cháh over án.
2. Two verbs in a row = no changes in order

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TENSES

Apart from the verb to be (rà). all other verbs follow these rules for tense:

PRESENT SIMPLE
(eg. I eat)

This tense is presented by just the verb itself.

I eat
Oi án/ Oi cháh

PRESENT CONTINUOUS
(eg. I am eating)

Before the verb if there's one verb or before the first verb if there's 2 consecutive verbs in a row - add dàh

I am eating
Oi dàh án/ Oi dàh cháh

PAST PRETERITE
(eg. I ate)

Same as the previous, but add the word ahm instead.

I ate
Oi ahm án/ Oi ahm cháh

FUTURE SIMPLE
(eg I will eat)

Same again but the word is sìn

I will eat
Oi sìn án/ Oi sìn cháh

FUTURE PROCHE
(eg. I am going to eat)

This time, the word is dòng (literally - intend)

I am going to eat
Oi dòng án/ Oi dòng cháh

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There are, however, alternatives for instance:

If you state the period of time the verb occurred, then you can just say that verb in its normal form, since you already know when it occurred:

Once, I went
Ying lù, oi dèi
[One time, I go]

And if you were saying:

Once, I was going
Ying lù, oi dàh dèi --> You would include the "am going" to make sure.

imbecilica · Joined: 09 Jan 2008 Posts: 74

A: As like English (eg. Liberty --> Freedom), some Yöngyahn yes i named it (lit: Tonal language), there are some words which have more than one word. In this instance:

I will randomly tell its history abit. The language has been heavily influxed with Chinese and Vietnamese vocab (eg. Hök from Cantonese/Vietnamese). Án is a word from Vietnamese (an - to eat). The 'indigenous' word is cháh

QUICK HISTORY
(obviously made-up)

The language of Yöngyahn is spoken by roughly 260,000 people (50,000 of which are elsewhere) of the two islands namely Báhk Yòmgók (North nation of Yom people) and the southern Màhn Yòmgók. They are both distant apart but the languages are pretty much the same. English: North and South Yomland.

In the 16th century, China invaded the north island and massacred many Yomlanders. As a result they sailed south. Some stopped at Indonesia whilst the rest searched for untamed land. At that time, an island had formed west of Australia but there were only Abos there. So they settled on what is now South Yomland. Southerners are richer than northerners (by 8-fold) thanks to their oil, tourists and trade with Australia, yet they are both still developing nations, the South is fast becoming developed. That's why there is somewhat a hatred for one another.

The GDP's of the countries are North $2,500 and South $17,800 and the average income is about: North $1,650 and South $13,230 keke.

Serali · Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 9:53 am Post subject:

WOW!

Does it have a pretty scripty? You sure are busy!

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Tobo deu ne lenito sugu? - You kissed a frog?!

isepiki · Joined: 03 Jan 2008 Posts: 37

Abos? What are Abos? Aborigines?
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