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#1 sample of the second draft of the Neiriko srcipt
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 1:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh ho! You want to kill him now don't you? Wink


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 2:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

He probably does. We also both have fictional armies at our command.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 2:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So do I but I would want to kill either of you. But they're a few that I would kill..... Twisted Evil


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 3:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why?
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 5:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What's the little three-letter black-and-white mostly rectilinear horizontal-and-vertical thing written in the lower right quarter of the page, close to the page's center? It looks like Tamil's script? Is it your real name in an Indian script?
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 10:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's my handwriting. I was seeing if y'all could read it. Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 10:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aeetlrcreejl wrote:
That's my handwriting. I was seeing if y'all could read it. :lol:
Did I? The last character looks a lot like the Tamil <r>, but not exactly like it. What script is it? Is it a word in a language? If so what word and what language? If it's a proper name that isn't also a word, whose name in which language?

langover94 wrote:
im actually fine with the IPA (ive actually memorized it) but it would be nice to produce a copy in X-SAMPA so that other members can read it.
It's not that I see the characters and don't recognize them; it's that I only see little blank hollow square boxes. I don't own this computer and am not allowed to download anything on it, including other browsers and other fonts. Even though I can sometimes see IPA in e-mail and on Yahoo!, and some (but not all) wikis, I usually can't see it on phpBBoards. I don't know why. If I did know why I still couldn't fix it.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 10:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh, that. I thought you were talking about the Kaqal page.

That's "Bangla" written in the Bengali script.

I'll get X-Sampa up soon.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 10:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aeetlrcreejl wrote:
Oh, that. .... That's "Bangla" written in the Bengali script.
I was way off. OTOH I've never thought I knew Bengali.

Aeetlrcreejl wrote:
I'll get X-Sampa up soon.
Thanks.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 10:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In the meantime copy and paste the charaters into Google/Wikipedia/elsewhere, and see their values.

EDIT:
Red

[ɑ] A
[e]
[i]
[o]
[u]
[y]

Orange

[a]
[ɛ] E
[ɪ] I
[ɶ] &
[ʊ] U
[ʏ] Y

Yellow

[ɒ] (I can't read this character.)
[ɤ] (I can't read this character.)
[ɨ] (I can't read this character.)
[]
[ʉ] (I can't read this character.)
[ɯ] (I can't read this character.)

Brown

[ə] (I can't read this character.)
[]
[]
[ɔ] (I can't read this character.)
[ʌ] (I can't read this character.)

Green

[m]
[n]
[ɳ] (I can't read this character.)
[ɲ] (I can't read this character.)
[ŋ]

Light green

[p]
[b]
[t (laminal)]
[t (apical)]
[d (laminal)]
[d (apical)]
[ʈ] (I can't read this character.)
[ɖ] (I can't read this character.)
[c]
[ɟ] (I can't read this character.)
[k]
[g]
[q]
[ɢ] (I can't read this character.)
[ʔ] (I can't read this character.)

Robin egg blue

[ɸ] (I can't read this character.)
[β]
[f]
[v]
[θ]
[]
[s]
[z]
[ʃ] (I can't read this character.)
[ʒ] (I can't read this character.)
[ʂ] (I can't read this character.)
[ʐ] (I can't read this character.)
[]
[ʝ] (I can't read this character.)
[x]
[ɣ] (I can't read this character.)
[χ]
[ʁ] (I can't read this character.)
[ħ] (I can't read this character.)
[ʕ] (I can't read this character.)
[ʢ] (I can't read this character.)
[h]

Blue

[ʋ] (I can't read this character.)
[ɹ] (I can't read this character.)
[j]
[ɰ] (I can't read this character.)
[w]
[ɥ] (I can't read this character.)

Turquoise

[r]
[ɽ] (I can't read this character.)
[ɾ] (I can't read this character.)
[ᴅ] (I can't read this character.)

Dark blue

[ɬ] (I can't read this character.)
[ɮ] (I can't read this character.)
[l]
[ʎ] (I can't read this character.)
[ɫ] (I can't read this character.)

Purple

[ɓ] (I can't read this character.)
[ǃ] (I can't read this character.)
[ɗ] (I can't read this character.)
[pʼ] (I can't read this character.)
[tʼ] (I can't read this character.)
[cʼ] (I can't read this character.)
[ʧ] (I can't read this character.)
[ʤ] (I can't read this character.)
[ɕ] (I can't read this character.)
[ʑ] (I can't read this character.)
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 10:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aeetlrcreejl wrote:
In the meantime copy and paste the charaters into Google/Wikipedia/elsewhere, and see their values.
Thanks! That almost worked. Very Happy I should have thought of it myself. Embarassed
There are still four I can't see:
The last Turquoise one, and
the 4th, 5th, and 6th Purple ones ([p something], [t something], [c something]).
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 10:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Last Turquoise one - alveoler flap (not tap)

The other ones are ejectives.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 1:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aeetlrcreejl wrote:
Last Turquoise one - alveoler flap (not tap)


...what's the difference?
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 4:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tolkien_Freak wrote:
Aeetlrcreejl wrote:
Last Turquoise one - alveoler flap (not tap)
...what's the difference?
AIUI a tap is like a one-time trill; the flexible or mobile articulator quickly makes contact with the hard or immobile one then rapidly reverses direction.
But in a flap, the soft or mobile articulator starts in one position, moves to make contact with the hard or immobile articulator, then breaks contact while continuing to move in the same direction.
A tap is like knocking on a door once (when, e.g., you're expected to knock three or four times). A flap is like a "drive-by knock".

Does anyone know any different?

But anyway the IPA chart has just one row for "taps or flaps". And, most of the time, "trills, taps, and flaps" get handled together. There may not be any languages with two different phonemes whose only difference is one is a tap and one is a flap? Does anyone know?
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 9:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i thought that i already said that the bengali was there... on the first page lol
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 10:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

langover94 wrote:
i thought that i already said that the bengali was there... on the first page lol
Yes, you did. I didn't notice until I went back and re-read.

(BTW you're not saying Bengali has two phonemes that differ only in that one is a tap and the other a flap, are you?)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flap_consonant
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alveolar_flap
http://www.linguistics.ucsb.edu/projects/featuresoftware/browse_sounds?soundset=24

Dutch, Japanese, and Turkish have taps-or-flaps.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 11:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

which syllables in japanese have taps or flaps? (sorry im not very good at the whole mouth-positioning thing)
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 12:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Japanese r is a lateral apical postalveolar flap. (That's the only flap in Japanese.)
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 8:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i see...

thanks!
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 7:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

eldin raigmore wrote:
(BTW you're not saying Bengali has two phonemes that differ only in that one is a tap and the other a flap, are you?)

No.
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