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PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 9:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

StrangeMagic wrote:
Yah, it is! LOL Private, private, private.


Let me know when it's presentable presentable presentable! LOL!


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 10:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Serali wrote:
StrangeMagic wrote:
Yah, it is! LOL Private, private, private.


Let me know when it's presentable presentable presentable! LOL!



I will, but that'll probably be when our novel to go with the script is done and that'll take forever. Curse school! LOL
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 11:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Could you post samples of it though? And yes curse school! Twisted Evil


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 8:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

eldin raigmore wrote:

The other day upon the stair
I met a man who wasn't there.
He wasn't there, again, today!
(I wish that guy would go away.)


Mahräätiňänerna,
Sə'ivemæšin ğaqälsə'ieg.
Aqìlsə'uegmœkwy!
(Ilšinkeo.)
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[iocwa_H d`Z`Ot`_h~a_Hk]
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 12:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

im good thankyou.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 4:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Erm, no samples at the moment but unfortunately I find it too similar to Mongolian and may change and edit it further.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 5:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aeetlrcreejl wrote:
Mahräätiňänerna,
Sə'ivemæšin ğaqälsə'ieg.
Aqìlsə'uegmœkwy!
(Ilšinkeo.)
Good lord, that's succinct! A four-line poem becomes five words!
Would you mind giving us an "Interlinear Morphemic Gloss" for it? (Like is talked about in the "Leipzig Glossing Rules".)
Is your language polysynthetic? If not is it agglutinative?


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 10:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Somewhere between polysynthetic and agglutinating.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 8:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i have no idea what that means. can someone please explain it to me briefly?
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 9:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agglutinating means one morpheme per meaning; contrasting fusional languages such as Latin (pulled out since I'm taking Latin in school), which use one morpheme to indicate a variety of things at the same time.

I don't really know what polysynthetic means.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 1:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What he said about agglutinating and fusional.
Languages are often placed on a two-dimensional typology; one dimension is how synthetic vs how analytic/isolating they are, and the other dimension is how fusing vs how (not-fusing?) they are.

A language with a lot of morphemes per word is very synthetic; a language with only one morpheme per word is very isolating or analytic.

A language with a lot of meanings per morpheme is very fusional; a language with only one meaning per morpheme is agglutinating.

"Polysynthetic" could, technically, just mean "very synthetic". But there are different features that get called "polysynthetic", and not every language that has one of these features gets called "polysynthetic", whereas not every language that does get called "polysynthetic" necessarily has every last one of these features.

But; among these features are; incorporation of referential, specific objects into verbs; and polypersonal agreement on the verbs (verbs with two or more participants agree with two or more of them). Also, frequently, a whole sentence can be just one word, because it agrees with all of its participants, incorporates all the "adverbs" as verb-modifying morphemes, and incorporates all of its objects.

For your part you can probably temporarily assume as a working hypothesis that "polysynthetic" just means "very, very synthetic". A language that's both polysynthetic and agglutinating would, in addition, have just one meaning per morpheme.

Agglutinating languages are very popular among auxlangers and loglangers; and also among first-time conlangers. More experienced conlangers like to also try the other types, at least when making artlangs that are intended to be "realistic" or "naturalistic".

I hope that was brief enough?
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 9:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes it was brief enough.

so you guys have all seen my conlang danslag (im to lazy to put the accents above the consonants right now).

what type of conlang is it? Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 6:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

langover94 wrote:
yes it was brief enough.
so you guys have all seen my conlang danslag (im to lazy to put the accents above the consonants right now).
what type of conlang is it? :D
I'll answer on your danslag thread.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 10:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't care if it looks like Mongolian I wanna see the pretty scripty! Mr. Green


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 10:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fine, this is one sample. LOL

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 10:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

whoa, that is nice!

comment: I seem to notice that a lot of scripts are cursive, IMO they take a 3x the effort(create for the initial, medial and terminal position) and skill...so kudos!!
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 12:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks awesome.

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comment: I seem to notice that a lot of scripts are cursive, IMO they take a 3x the effort(create for the initial, medial and terminal position)


Mine's cursive and it's got one form.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 1:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

really? how would it work? so it doesn't distinguish between the three? perhaps initial-medial and final all merged into one? very unique as well
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 1:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can see it in the second-newest topic in the Conscripts forum. The letters just connect to each other.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 2:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

very nice StrangeMagic.. Smile
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