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o geez... i have no idea
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| Is it a conlang? |
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I'd say conlang.....but which one......?
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halyihev
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| Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 4:09 am Post subject: |
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| Tolkien_Freak wrote: | | Is it a conlang? |
It is indeed. One of the few with a very wide (world-wide, I would submit) audience. Surprised those who were exposed to it, and yet fit in perfectly well with what they would expect in the milieu where it was presented.
The quote I gave is taken from a book, authored by the conlang's creator, and yet not by the person who is far more associated with it.
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Oh this helps alot......*Strains brain to think* Damn it! Nothing's coming to be but Sindarin.........and that is an old conlang and I don't that it's that common that people in India know about. lol.
Lord help me! 
EDIT: I've spoken to the Lord and he said Abanaki......
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halyihev
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| Serali wrote: | Oh this helps alot......*Strains brain to think* Damn it! Nothing's coming to be but Sindarin.........and that is an old conlang and I don't that it's that common that people in India know about. lol.
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It is not a Tolkien language. Nor Paolini, nor Jordan. In fact, it does not come from any science-fiction author (i.e. from anyone who has published a science-fiction novel, or a story in a science-fiction magazine, at least to my knowledge).
I doubt that the average person in India or Kazakhstan would know anything of it. But, it is a language that people totally outside the conlanging world would know exists. But not *everyone* outside that, there is a demographic of people who are afficionados of something/someone else who would know of this particular language. They would not, however, *know* the language, because although texts have been published in it (the passage is copied out of a book I have), the grammar and vocabulary have not. We have the texts (three in all), and translations of the texts, included in the book.
| Serali wrote: | EDIT: I've spoken to the Lord and he said Abanaki......
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You probably want to check your connection on that link. I think you might have gotten some static or garbled data. It's definitely not Abenaki (or even Abanaki...). 
Besides, the previous one I did that Tolkien_Freak got, that one was Abenaki.
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| Is is a loglang, or maybe another auxlang? |
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I'm stumped...
I was actually going to suggest Talossan. But it didn't have the Rhaeto-Romance(is that what it's called?) 'feel' to it.
@Tolkien_Freak: I don't think it's an auxlang or even a loglang, since halyihev referred to a book. It may have been used in a novel of some sort, definitely NOT science fiction.
edited:sorry for the typo
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| Well, then, I can't say what it is - my knowledge of conlangs used in novels is small. |
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Volapuk?
Manx?
Haitian Kriyol?
Vietnamese? |
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langover94
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ok i'm completely lost, its definately not vietnamese because it has no tonal indicators. as for the other languages, i dont know. like he said, its a conlang, not a natlang.
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| I think we need another hint... |
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halyihev
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| Tolkien_Freak wrote: | | I think we need another hint... |
Ok. How about this...
The book in which the conlang is presented was not the first released place it was presented, nor is it likely to be the most well known. The book is by the conlang's creator, and is not a novel at all, it works out almost more like a travelog/mythology of the world where the language is spoken, but with a very mystic-vision feel to it. The person who gave the language its claim to fame, however, is not its creator, and has never written a book (at least that I know of).
Both the creator and "presenter" of the language are women. They are from one of the nations in the EU.
The presentation of the language drew some discussion in conlanging circles when it first came out, and the original presentation only had audio and a printed component in the native script. However, since the creator of the language has not shared linguistic details, interest in the community soon waned.
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What does the native script look like? Other then that I'm still stumped.
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Is that nation Iceland?
Was one of the women a singer? |
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halyihev
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| eldin raigmore wrote: | Is that nation Iceland?
Was one of the women a singer? |
Iceland - no, although you are close in spelling. 
Yes, one of the women is a singer.
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halyihev
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| Serali wrote: | What does the native script look like? Other then that I'm still stumped.
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Let's see if the latest hint gives it. If it doesn't, I'll scan a passage. I just always find scanning and posting to be more work than my lazy soul wants to get into...
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| Quote: | | Iceland - no, although you are close in spelling. |
Ireland then?**(taking the cue)
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halyihev
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| yssida wrote: | | Quote: | | Iceland - no, although you are close in spelling. |
Ireland then?**(taking the cue) |
Bingo.
So, we have established that this is a conlang created by a woman in Ireland, who also wrote a book on the world where this is spoken. The book is not a novel, but rather reads more like an ethereal travel log. The language, although included in the book, is not described in grammatical detail, nor is a vocabulary given (although it could be worked out from the bilingual texts). The primary presentation of the language, however, was via another Irish woman, who presented the language in an audio form with native-script printed component.
This presentation was, by the way, only 2-3 years ago at most.
I think that's it for hints. If nobody gets it this time, I'll just reveal it.
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I'm sure I've read something when I was about 11 or 12, about a traveler language called Vilani (or was that Valani, can't remember) but I'm pretty sure it's from the net and not from a book, so it can't be.
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