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eldin raigmore
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From http://www.une.edu.au/bcss/linguistics/nsm/semantics-in-brief.php
Table: Proposed semantic primes (2007)
Substantives:
I, YOU, SOMEONE, PEOPLE, SOMETHING/THING, BODY
Relational substantives:
KIND, PART
Determiners:
THIS, THE SAME, OTHER/ELSE
Quantifiers:
ONE, TWO, SOME, ALL, MUCH/MANY
Evaluators:
GOOD, BAD
Descriptors:
BIG, SMALL
Mental predicates:
THINK, KNOW, WANT, FEEL, SEE, HEAR
Speech:
SAY, WORDS, TRUE
Actions, events,
movement, contact:
DO, HAPPEN,
MOVE, TOUCH
Location, existence, possession, specification:
BE (SOMEWHERE),THERE IS, HAVE, BE (SOMEONE/SOMETHING)
Life and death:
LIVE, DIE
Time:
WHEN/TIME, NOW, BEFORE, AFTER, A LONG TIME, A SHORT TIME, FOR SOME TIME, MOMENT
Space:
WHERE/PLACE, HERE, ABOVE, BELOW, FAR, NEAR, SIDE, INSIDE
"Logical" concepts:
NOT, MAYBE, CAN, BECAUSE, IF
Intensifier, augmentor:
VERY, MORE
Similarity:
LIKE
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Also see this:
http://nsmetalanguage.pbworks.com/ThePrimes
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achemel
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| Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2009 2:52 am Post subject: |
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I very much like this one and translated it into ra cel:
| Quote: | One bright day, late at night,
Two dead boys rose up to fight.
Back to back, they faced each other,
Drew their swords, and shot each other.
A deaf policeman heard the noise
And came and killed those two dead boys.
If you don't believe this lie is true
Just ask the blind man -- he saw it too.
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A-day bright (1n1a), at-night late (2n1a)
Arise-PAST boy-pl. two dead (1n1a) fight-D
Show-PAST they face-pl. to-each other, back-at-back
Pull-PAST they sword-pl.-their-and shoot-PAST they each other
Hear-PAST a-policeman deaf (1n1a) noise and
Come-PAST-and-kill-PAST-D he boy-pl.-those two dead (2n1a)
Believe-COND-NEG you (that) be-CONT-noun true (2n1a) of-this-lie
Then inquire-IMP you to-man blind (2n1a) – see-PAST he it also.
N-hôn cisir i, tä-läcý a
Hälbë bhút-lan sû nadhir i ragŷch
Mìlelë béth buirin tä-tu-nan, wvië-tä-wvië
Siandhë béth halâcn-säj-s besëibë béth tu-nan.
Evë n-bolismën jerdävir i clam-s
Sûlë-s-dëgodëch rwc bhút-lan-i sû nadhir a
Iavacagh gyn thli iamëusagh fór a jw-äẅed-i
Daë éncim thli tä-bhút sẁcâ a – vêresë rwc dhẅ nanm.
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eldin raigmore
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| Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2009 8:52 pm Post subject: |
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| achemel wrote: | A-day bright (1n1a), at-night late (2n1a)
Arise-PAST boy-pl. two dead (1n1a) fight-D
Show-PAST they face-pl. to-each other, back-at-back
Pull-PAST they sword-pl.-their-and shoot-PAST they each other
Hear-PAST a-policeman deaf (1n1a) noise and
Come-PAST-and-kill-PAST-D he boy-pl.-those two dead (2n1a)
Believe-COND-NEG you (that) be-CONT-noun true (2n1a) of-this-lie
Then inquire-IMP you to-man blind (2n1a) – see-PAST he it also.
N-hôn cisir i, tä-läcý a
Hälbë bhút-lan sû nadhir i ragŷch
Mìlelë béth buirin tä-tu-nan, wvië-tä-wvië
Siandhë béth halâcn-säj-s besëibë béth tu-nan.
Evë n-bolismën jerdävir i clam-s
Sûlë-s-dëgodëch rwc bhút-lan-i sû nadhir a
Iavacagh gyn thli iamëusagh fór a jw-äẅed-i
Daë éncim thli tä-bhút sẁcâ a – vêresë rwc dhẅ nanm. |
Great!
I laughed again upon reading it.
Is that romanization with diacritics you've used te actual script of Ra Cel, or do they have a native script -- that is, do you yave a "con"-script or neography you'll eventually writhe this in?
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achemel
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| Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 3:02 pm Post subject: |
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There's a script for it, very similar to that of Tadvaradcel (which stole its writing from ra cel in the first place) and if you'd like I can write this out and post it later. (^_^)
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eldin raigmore
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| Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 7:09 pm Post subject: |
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| some standup comic whom I'll have to credit when I can wrote: | If an argument starts with
"What did you mean by that?",
it's probably not going to end with
"Oh, so that's what you meant by that." |
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twix93
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| Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 1:58 pm Post subject: |
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My new unnamed conlang. Mix of a-priori and a-posteriori. Sorry if my explanations of the grammar are unclear.
The big tiger chased the little boys into the little house by the river because they had killed his cubs.
Osu evakşik fötuatsiai äjis usiomulak äjis peyakfasewo kawakufpu şiuhu itul totenai oli evakşietul.
Osu evakşi-k fötuatsi-ai äjis u-siom-ul-ak äjis pey-ak-fas-ewo kawa-k-ufpu şiuhu it-ul tot-en-ai ol-i evakşi-et-ul.
Big tiger-the chase-PST little ACC-boy-PL-the little house-the-in-towards river-the-by because he-PL dead-ify-PAST self-POSS tiger-baby-PL
As soon as the door opened, a mouse ran in. A black cat followed. The mouse climbed up the shocked lady’s skirt. The cat did too. The woman gave the cat a beating.
Sielom munak openolai, ikijil hutşai ifasyukewo. Sutşa kät kövitai. Ikijilak ftämai tuijunoha şokuhi vuqaki ujup. Hqi kätak keqai. Vuqak hopojiai ukätak.
Sielom mun-ak open-ol-ai, ikijil hutş-ai ifasyu-k-ewo. Sutşa kät kövit-ai. Ikijil-ak ftäm-ai tui-jun-oha şok-uhi vuqa-k-i u-jup. Hqi kät-ak ke-qai. Vuqa-k hopoji-ai u-kät-ak.
As.soon.as door-the open-REFL-PAST, mouse run-PAST inside-the-towards. Black cat follow-PAST. Mouse-the climb-PAST up-wards-ADV shock-ed woman-the-POSS ACC-skirt Also cat-the do-PAST. Woman-the beat-PAST ACC-cat-the
My God, I love thee, not because I hope for heaven thereby, nor yet because who love Thee not must die eternally, but solely because thou art my God and my eternal king.
Tiosit jai, ja amei ulau, yoq şiulu ja toivuaqei upahatis onyä, yoq jäl şiulu ji ki ne amei ulau kiloi aluştu totsa, sqo yutoha şiulu lau tios jai va aluştu emono jai.
Tios-it ja-i, ja am-ei u-lau, yoq şiulu ja toivua-qei u-pahatis onyä, yoq jäl şiulu ji ki ne am-ei u-lau kil-oi aluştu totsa, sqo yut-oha şiulu lau tios ja-i va aluştu emono ja-i.
God-VOC I-POSS, I love-PRES ACC-you, neither because I hope-PRES ACC-heaven thus, nor even because one that NEG love-PRES acc-you must-FUT forever dead-become, but alone-ADV because you god I-POSS and forever king I-POSS
Inside a hall, when you look directly up the centre, you are able to see a hidden room. Move one step to any direction and it disappears.
Piöntifas, ji kaneiso tivek tuijunoha mitakökuq, ji ökei taq kakuşuhiai unun. Ji tsänaiso pa hatualä ftam ştätyuwo, ok vänişai.
Piönti-fas, ji kan-ei-so tivek tui-jun-oha mit-ak-ökuq, ji ök-ei taq kakuş-uhi-ai u-nun. Ji tsän-ai-so pa hatua-lä ftam ştätyu-wo, ok väniş-ai.
Hall-inside, one look-PRES-if precisely up-wards-ADV middle-the-on, one can-PRES see hide-PASSIVE-PAST ACC-room. One move-PAST-if one step-by.means.of any direction-towards, it vanish-PAST.
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Tolkien_Freak
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| Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 6:59 pm Post subject: |
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Welcome! ようこそ! ^_^
I'd like to see a thread for your lang.
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twix93
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| Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 7:21 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | Welcome! ようこそ! ^_^
I'd like to see a thread for your lang. |
Thanks. And yes, I will do when I can, I'm just not very good at explaining certain things so I am working out how to do so. |
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achemel
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| Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 8:49 pm Post subject: |
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It looks interesting.  Give it your best shot; everyone here will gladly help you with anything you're not sure about. 
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eldin raigmore
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| Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 11:37 pm Post subject: |
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| twix93 wrote: | | My new unnamed conlang. Mix of a-priori and a-posteriori. Sorry if my explanations of the grammar are unclear. |
I like it, and I want to see more. Thanks.
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eldin raigmore
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| Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 9:08 pm Post subject: |
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Lucy Snyder, as a school girl, wrote the following poem about her pet tarantula:
| Quote: | "I have a fuzzy spider;
I named him 'Mr. Squizzy'.
I lost him on the school bus;
He's not in your lunchbox, is he?" |
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achemel
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| Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 4:52 pm Post subject: |
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That's adorable.  Will attempt translation!
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kyonides
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| Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 7:11 am Post subject: |
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The lesson / the moral could be "don't trust her, she likes to let her pet go for a walk on his own... or she likes to lose her pet on purpose..."
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eldin raigmore
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"Trade Consul Dirk Moeller did not know whether he could cause an interstellar diplomatic incident by farting; but he was ready to find out." -- from "The Android's Dream", by John Scalzi
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| Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 12:21 am Post subject: |
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| eldin raigmore wrote: | | "Trade Consul Dirk Moeller did not know whether he could cause an interstellar diplomatic incident by farting; but he was ready to find out." |
Casta marreis Dirk Moeller èbudec vil sötin mea harsinis naĵarù perdénis, nù budenósac.
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