Vreleksá

eldin raigmore · Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 5:12 pm Post subject:

From http://www.une.edu.au/bcss/linguistics/nsm/semantics-in-brief.php

Table: Proposed semantic primes (2007)

Substantives:
I, YOU, SOMEONE, PEOPLE, SOMETHING/THING, BODY

Relational substantives:
KIND, PART

Determiners:
THIS, THE SAME, OTHER/ELSE

Quantifiers:
ONE, TWO, SOME, ALL, MUCH/MANY

Evaluators:
GOOD, BAD

Descriptors:
BIG, SMALL

Mental predicates:
THINK, KNOW, WANT, FEEL, SEE, HEAR

Speech:
SAY, WORDS, TRUE

Actions, events,
movement, contact:
DO, HAPPEN,
MOVE, TOUCH

Location, existence, possession, specification:
BE (SOMEWHERE),THERE IS, HAVE, BE (SOMEONE/SOMETHING)

Life and death:
LIVE, DIE

Time:
WHEN/TIME, NOW, BEFORE, AFTER, A LONG TIME, A SHORT TIME, FOR SOME TIME, MOMENT

Space:
WHERE/PLACE, HERE, ABOVE, BELOW, FAR, NEAR, SIDE, INSIDE

"Logical" concepts:
NOT, MAYBE, CAN, BECAUSE, IF

Intensifier, augmentor:
VERY, MORE

Similarity:
LIKE

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Also see this:
http://nsmetalanguage.pbworks.com/ThePrimes
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achemel · Joined: 29 Mar 2009 Posts: 556 Location: up for debate

I very much like this one and translated it into ra cel:

eldin raigmore · Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2009 8:52 pm Post subject:

achemel · Joined: 29 Mar 2009 Posts: 556 Location: up for debate

There's a script for it, very similar to that of Tadvaradcel (which stole its writing from ra cel in the first place) and if you'd like I can write this out and post it later. (^_^)
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Main conlangs:
ddamachel, tadvaradcel, ra cel, lashel, hemnalg, nomah

eldin raigmore · Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 7:09 pm Post subject:

twix93 · Joined: 23 Jul 2009 Posts: 57 Location: England

My new unnamed conlang. Mix of a-priori and a-posteriori. Sorry if my explanations of the grammar are unclear.

The big tiger chased the little boys into the little house by the river because they had killed his cubs.
Osu evakşik fötuatsiai äjis usiomulak äjis peyakfasewo kawakufpu şiuhu itul totenai oli evakşietul.

Osu evakşi-k fötuatsi-ai äjis u-siom-ul-ak äjis pey-ak-fas-ewo kawa-k-ufpu şiuhu it-ul tot-en-ai ol-i evakşi-et-ul.
Big tiger-the chase-PST little ACC-boy-PL-the little house-the-in-towards river-the-by because he-PL dead-ify-PAST self-POSS tiger-baby-PL

As soon as the door opened, a mouse ran in. A black cat followed. The mouse climbed up the shocked lady’s skirt. The cat did too. The woman gave the cat a beating.
Sielom munak openolai, ikijil hutşai ifasyukewo. Sutşa kät kövitai. Ikijilak ftämai tuijunoha şokuhi vuqaki ujup. Hqi kätak keqai. Vuqak hopojiai ukätak.

Sielom mun-ak open-ol-ai, ikijil hutş-ai ifasyu-k-ewo. Sutşa kät kövit-ai. Ikijil-ak ftäm-ai tui-jun-oha şok-uhi vuqa-k-i u-jup. Hqi kät-ak ke-qai. Vuqa-k hopoji-ai u-kät-ak.
As.soon.as door-the open-REFL-PAST, mouse run-PAST inside-the-towards. Black cat follow-PAST. Mouse-the climb-PAST up-wards-ADV shock-ed woman-the-POSS ACC-skirt Also cat-the do-PAST. Woman-the beat-PAST ACC-cat-the

My God, I love thee, not because I hope for heaven thereby, nor yet because who love Thee not must die eternally, but solely because thou art my God and my eternal king.
Tiosit jai, ja amei ulau, yoq şiulu ja toivuaqei upahatis onyä, yoq jäl şiulu ji ki ne amei ulau kiloi aluştu totsa, sqo yutoha şiulu lau tios jai va aluştu emono jai.

Tios-it ja-i, ja am-ei u-lau, yoq şiulu ja toivua-qei u-pahatis onyä, yoq jäl şiulu ji ki ne am-ei u-lau kil-oi aluştu totsa, sqo yut-oha şiulu lau tios ja-i va aluştu emono ja-i.
God-VOC I-POSS, I love-PRES ACC-you, neither because I hope-PRES ACC-heaven thus, nor even because one that NEG love-PRES acc-you must-FUT forever dead-become, but alone-ADV because you god I-POSS and forever king I-POSS

Inside a hall, when you look directly up the centre, you are able to see a hidden room. Move one step to any direction and it disappears.
Piöntifas, ji kaneiso tivek tuijunoha mitakökuq, ji ökei taq kakuşuhiai unun. Ji tsänaiso pa hatualä ftam ştätyuwo, ok vänişai.

Piönti-fas, ji kan-ei-so tivek tui-jun-oha mit-ak-ökuq, ji ök-ei taq kakuş-uhi-ai u-nun. Ji tsän-ai-so pa hatua-lä ftam ştätyu-wo, ok väniş-ai.
Hall-inside, one look-PRES-if precisely up-wards-ADV middle-the-on, one can-PRES see hide-PASSIVE-PAST ACC-room. One move-PAST-if one step-by.means.of any direction-towards, it vanish-PAST.

Tolkien_Freak · Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 6:59 pm Post subject:

Welcome! ようこそ! ^_^

I'd like to see a thread for your lang.

twix93 · Joined: 23 Jul 2009 Posts: 57 Location: England

achemel · Joined: 29 Mar 2009 Posts: 556 Location: up for debate

It looks interesting. Very Happy

Give it your best shot; everyone here will gladly help you with anything you're not sure about. Wink

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I have some small knowledge of:
English, Japanese, Korean, Chinese, Spanish, French
I would like to learn:
Italian, Norwegian, Gaelic
Main conlangs:
ddamachel, tadvaradcel, ra cel, lashel, hemnalg, nomah

eldin raigmore · Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 11:37 pm Post subject:

eldin raigmore · Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 9:08 pm Post subject:

Lucy Snyder, as a school girl, wrote the following poem about her pet tarantula:

achemel · Joined: 29 Mar 2009 Posts: 556 Location: up for debate

That's adorable. Laughing

Will attempt translation!
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I have some small knowledge of:
English, Japanese, Korean, Chinese, Spanish, French
I would like to learn:
Italian, Norwegian, Gaelic
Main conlangs:
ddamachel, tadvaradcel, ra cel, lashel, hemnalg, nomah

kyonides · Joined: 28 Aug 2008 Posts: 301

The lesson / the moral could be "don't trust her, she likes to let her pet go for a walk on his own... or she likes to lose her pet on purpose..."
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eldin raigmore · Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 7:08 pm Post subject:

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eldin raigmore · Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2009 6:51 pm Post subject:

When in danger, or in doubt,
Run in circles, scream, and shout.
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eldin raigmore · Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 10:17 pm Post subject:

(Overheard in a crowded mall during end-of-year shopping)
Man is born free; yet everywhere he is in chain stores.
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achemel · Joined: 29 Mar 2009 Posts: 556 Location: up for debate

I wasn't sure if this should go here or under a song lyrics thread...but it could be a good challenge as a sort of long run-on sentence.

From “That’s Your Horoscope for Today” by Weird Al
Now you may find it inconceivable or at the very least a bit unlikely that the relative position of the planets and the stars could have a special deep significance or meaning that exclusively applies to only you but let me give you my assurance that these forecasts and predictions are all based on solid scientific documented evidence so you would have to be some kind of moron not to realize that every single one of them is absolutely true - where was I?

Ra cel: ime sgîodh uìm i gyntölsoma dööv bäthc igha in yt sa thlâia évj a jetir jw-scianm-s-thẅàmn n-saghfẅa dööv n-malluc hóẅmir duílma cnù nasu lych aweï tä-thâ, oli navtim faranmëch lé tä-thâ scast-nagh, sa û-vruiamëusagn-s-gäävymyn forrödh tere u-fêran u hìbuìna un senegbuir ul tiracerë ẅghé iaia thli dúr-gnì sa tnübgèch gyn cnù tere-séd lajèẅ ia ë fór scwsmë lé?
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I have some small knowledge of:
English, Japanese, Korean, Chinese, Spanish, French
I would like to learn:
Italian, Norwegian, Gaelic
Main conlangs:
ddamachel, tadvaradcel, ra cel, lashel, hemnalg, nomah

Kiri · Joined: 13 Jun 2009 Posts: 471 Location: Latvia/Italy

Curse that song! It just leads to conworld questions! (it was the reason why I asked the stereotypw question back at "Conreligions" ) Very Happy

But about translating it in the conlang... ouch, I should first translate it into Latvian, knowing, that it would make many many subordinate clauses, not to mention the intranslationabe expressions.
Just for the sake of it, I'll try it right here, beneath your eyes, because I know you might be interested in the way subordinate clauses are made in Latvian. I'll brake it into subordinate clauses just for the sake of comfort.

Latviski:

1. Tā, tev varētu šķist neiedomājami vai vismaz mazliet maz ticami,
2. ka planētu un zvaigžņu relatīvajam novietojumam varētu būt kāda īpaša, dziļa nozīme vai jēga,
3. kas attiecas vienīgi uz tevi,
4. bet ļauj man tev apliecināt,
5. ka visas šīs prognozes un pareģojumi ir pamatoti uz pamatīgiem, zinātniski dokumentētiem pierādījumiem,
6. tāpēc tev būtu jābūt kaut kādam muļķim,
7. lai neaptvertu,
8. ka pilnīgi ikkatra no tām ir absolūti precīza;
9. kur es paliku?

Original in Latvian sub-clauses Very Happy

1. Now you may find it inconceivable or at the very least a bit unlikely
2. that the relative position of the planets and the stars could have a special deep significance or meaning
3. that exclusively applies to only you
4. but let me give you my assurance
5. that these forecasts and predictions are all based on solid scientific documented evidence
6. so you would have to be some kind of moron
7. not to realize
8. that every single one of them is absolutely true -
9. where was I?

Oh, actually it's good for wordbuilding Smile

eldin raigmore · Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2010 12:22 am Post subject: