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What shall we call the forum?
Bupitanaran
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Conscriptia
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Conscripts&Langs
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Conscripts
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Conlangs&Scripts
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Vreleksá
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StrangeMagic
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 1:08 pm    Post subject: A New Name Reply with quote

Do you lot think we should make a name instead of just using Conscripts? It seems very dull! ^_^

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 6:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah why not? Any one have any ideas?
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 6:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shall it bear some meaning to conscripts... or should we make up a random word? making somthing like Omniglot... where he used Greek I believe?
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 7:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've got it "Conscriptia" A friend of mine on the IRC came up with the name of a world that contains everything I like. It was a joke though. I asked him where he lived and he said "Conscriptia, the land of conscripts boingies and wapo gipo mi mi mi! " Mr. Green

Pretty cute isn't it? I laughed.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 8:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lol! Interesting, I like the name! ^_^
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 9:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glad you like it. I like it too that's why I suggested it. Mr. Green
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 4:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Okay, we will use that for now, anyone object?
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 6:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've just joined, so I'm not sure I can justifiably have an opinion, but I thought I'd vote against Conscriptia. It's not so much that I don't like the name, as that this board seems to be more than just conscripts, so it seems like something a little more all-encompassing might be nice.

Were it my board, I might go with something like Vreleksia, which is from the Alurhsa word "vreleksá" meaning "constructed". But since it's yours and Serali's, maybe you have a word in one of your own conlangs that has to do with constructing, or artistic work, or something?

Just a thought. And if you decide on Conscriptia I certainly won't have a problem with it.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 7:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My word for conscripts is 'Bupitaranan', but again, my conlang is not developed well and so doubt I will post about it on here, I am more of a conscript person. ^_^

I agree with you, we may need a name that is more encompassing...
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 7:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Halyihev! YAAAAAAAY! How are you?
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 8:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Serali wrote:
Halyihev! YAAAAAAAY! How are you?


Good, but really freaking busy! This "work" and "life" thing really interferes with my ability to conlang, I'll tell you! Wink

I'll try to stop by here and post/respond when I can, though. And I'll try to get those script samples scanned and do a post here as well (in the Conscripts forum).
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 8:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good! Looking forward to seeing them. And "Life" and "work" interfering with conlanging nooooooo! Mr. Green
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PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2007 6:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The problem with "Conscripts" is that if you google for some form of that word, even along with other words, the first 20 or more Google-hits you get all have to do with the draft (conscription) and similar ideas, not with neographies.

When Rome still had kings, one of them doubled the size of the Senate (from 150 to 300, I think -- it was a little before my time) by "conscripting" some (150?) new Senators. So the phrase "Conscript Fathers" came to be used to mean the local town's council.

Once you get past the draft in Google, you have to get past the "conscript fathers". Then, maybe, if you're lucky, you'll finally find three or so Google-hits about "imaginary" or "made-up" or new writing-systems; logographies, syllabaries, abugidas, alphabets, abjads, etc.

BTW what's an "altscript"?
Is there a classification scheme for neographies/constructed scripts?
How about:
1. Can be used for a natlang vs not intended for any natlang.
2. Intended mostly for human language(s) vs intended mostly for non-human language(s).
3. Intended to reflect a spoken language vs intended to reflect a language with some other medium of transmission, for instance, a sign-language.
4.
  1. mostly logograms/ideograms (most individual characters represent morphemes and most morphemes are represented by individual characters)?
  2. syllabary (most individual characters represent syllables and most syllables are represented by individual characters)?
  3. alphabet (most individual characters represent phoneme-segments and most phoneme-segments are represented by individual characters -- vowels are represented independently, on a footing equal to that of consonants)
  4. abugida (each character represents a consonant; and also a syllable, usually a CV syllable beginning with that consonant. The vowel is inherent in the character; a different vowel is shown by a diacritical mark, as is the lack of any vowel)
  5. abjad (each character represents a consonant; vowels are mostly not represented, and are left for the reader to guess. Sometimes the choice of a vowel is narrowed down by a diacritical mark; and some consonant characters can stand in for some vowels with the assistance of a diacritical mark; but these matres lectiones are omissible and frequently omitted)?
  6. featurography (each of the distinctive features of a phoneme segment is represented the same way on the characters for different phonemes.)?
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PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2007 8:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The problem with "Conscripts" is that if you google for some form of that word, even along with other words, the first 20 or more Google-hits you get all have to do with the draft (conscription) and similar ideas, not with neographies.

When Rome still had kings, one of them doubled the size of the Senate (from 150 to 300, I think -- it was a little before my time) by "conscripting" some (150?) new Senators. So the phrase "Conscript Fathers" came to be used to mean the local town's council.

Once you get past the draft in Google, you have to get past the "conscript fathers". Then, maybe, if you're lucky, you'll finally find three or so Google-hits about "imaginary" or "made-up" or new writing-systems; logographies, syllabaries, abugidas, alphabets, abjads, etc.


Yes, I've encountered that problem as well. So what would you suggest for the name of the forum?

Quote:
BTW what's an "altscript"?
Is there a classification scheme for neographies/constructed scripts?
How about:
1. Can be used for a natlang vs not intended for any natlang.
2. Intended mostly for human language(s) vs intended mostly for non-human language(s).
3. Intended to reflect a spoken language vs intended to reflect a language with some other medium of transmission, for instance, a sign-language.
4.
mostly logograms/ideograms (most individual characters represent morphemes and most morphemes are represented by individual characters)?

syllabary (most individual characters represent syllables and most syllables are represented by individual characters)?

alphabet (most individual characters represent phoneme-segments and most phoneme-segments are represented by individual characters -- vowels are represented independently, on a footing equal to that of consonants)

abugida (each character represents a consonant; and also a syllable, usually a CV syllable beginning with that consonant. The vowel is inherent in the character; a different vowel is shown by a diacritical mark, as is the lack of any vowel)

abjad (each character represents a consonant; vowels are mostly not represented, and are left for the reader to guess. Sometimes the choice of a vowel is narrowed down by a diacritical mark; and some consonant characters can stand in for some vowels with the assistance of a diacritical mark; but these matres lectiones are omissible and frequently omitted)?

featurography (each of the distinctive features of a phoneme segment is represented the same way on the characters for different phonemes.)?


This is a very interesting question, maybe we could have a discussion about that but not on here. So I'm going to make a post about it. Thank you for bringing it up.
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PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2007 7:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well right now we have these names:

    Conscriptia
    Vreleksá
    Bupitaranan


I'm still quite undecided on what to call it... But I think I like Vreleksá the most. ^_^ What do you lot think?
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PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2007 4:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would like somefing like Conlangandscripts, or maybe Conlandscripts, or even Conlang&Scripts, or another combination of those. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2007 6:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

StrangeMagic wrote:
    Conscriptia
    Vreleksá
    Bupitaranan
I like the second, but i don't think anyone will find it with google Confused
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PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2007 9:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeh, if they have not heard of Vreleksá, then we'll need to make it known!

So what do you think? I certianly think that Vreleksá will be a good name as I plan to add more forums to discuss religion, culture, biology and all that. ^_^

Therefore, Sano Parmandil, I think your suggestions may not be able to show that we look at all constructed things. Sorry, but thank you for your opinions. Smile
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PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2007 11:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

StrangeMagic wrote:
Yeh, if they have not heard of Vreleksá, then we'll need to make it known!

So what do you think? I certianly think that Vreleksá will be a good name as I plan to add more forums to discuss religion, culture, biology and all that. ^_^


Wow. You all would really consider an Alurhsa word for the name of your board? I am humbled and honored at the same time. Embarassed
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PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2007 3:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You're welcome, Halyihev! ^_^

I really like the name, and nobody has really said anything against it other than that it may be hard to find, but that shouldn't be a big issue. If we let more people know about it.
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